Thread: The Nuclear Annihilation of Israel?

Originally Posted by Libhater

Setting any talk of useless UN intervention in this nuclear bomb dilemma aside, is there anyone here the least bit concerned that when Iran does get full capability of a nuclear arsenal, that they won't use them immediately against Israel and or Western nations? C-mon now, these terrorist laden raghead nations have already shown that they're willing to exercise suicide bombings, so what's to prevent them from nukeing their most hated enemy, Israel? And hasn't that punk leader of Iran already threatened Israel and America with annihilation on numerous occasions?

I would think that the 5 nuclear nations would join in with Israel in stopping this rogue nation, Iran. Tell me or show me where any of the big 5 would be willing to sit idly by while Iran makes a mockery and perhaps a wasteland of America's #1 foreign ally in Israel.

I have the same concern for Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon that I have for any nation that obtains a nuclear weapon. Certainly those that currently have nuclear weapons, including the United States even though it's authorized to have nuclear weapons under the NPT, are of the greatest concern.

The only deterant to any nation that has or may obtain a nuclear weapons to prevent them from using it is an absolute guarentee that they will face an all out nuclear retalliation. That is the only means we have of preventing a nuclear war. As I mentioned earlier even if the United States used a nuclear weapon in an attack against another nation it should face a full retallitory nuclear attack by other nuclear weapons nations. Only the threat of nuclear anniliation of a nation will prevent a nation from using nuclear weapons.

And no, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has never threatened an Iranian attack against either Israel or the United States. Iran is unable to even attack the United States or Israel in any significant manner and, while Ahmadinejad has repeatedly called for the end of the "zionist controlled" State of Israel he has also stated that this will happen internally in Palestine without any direct actions by Iran. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad opposes the violations of the Rights of the Palestinians by the "zionists" in Israel and has called repeatedly for a general election of all voters in Palestine to establish a government (i.e. a one-state solution) in a democratic process. He has also stated that if the People of Palestine, including the Jews, decide through a democratic process that a two state solution is the final answer that he and Iran would support that decision.

Iran would never use a nuclear weapon as it would face a nuclear retalliation just as Israel or any other nations should face nuclear retalliation if they use a nuclear weapon. The same identical criteria must be applied to all nations.

There is a real simply issue that must be addressed. Those nations that are authorized to have nuclear weapons under the NPT need to greatly reduce their nuclear arsenals. They are doing that. Nations that have nuclear weapons in violation of the NPT need to dismantle those weapons. Nations that do not have nuclear weapons should not build nuclear weapons. That is exactly what the NPT states.

Today Iran has no nuclear weapons and we don't even have evidence that Iran is actually trying to build a nuclear weapon. It is purely speculative. We know Israel, Pakistan, India and N Korea have nuclear weapons in violation of the NPT and the entire UN should be taking all actions necessary to disarm these rogue nuclear weapons nations. If we can impose economic sanctions on Iran for just the speculation that Iran might be attempting to build a nuclear weapons, which we have done, then even greater economic sanctions need to be imposed on those nations that we know have nuclear weapons.

Originally Posted by Libhater

Setting any talk of useless UN intervention in this nuclear bomb dilemma aside, is there anyone here the least bit concerned that when Iran does get full capability of a nuclear arsenal, that they won't use them immediately against Israel and or Western nations? C-mon now, these terrorist laden raghead nations have already shown that they're willing to exercise suicide bombings, so what's to prevent them from nukeing their most hated enemy, Israel? And hasn't that punk leader of Iran already threatened Israel and America with annihilation on numerous occasions?

I would think that the 5 nuclear nations would join in with Israel in stopping this rogue nation, Iran. Tell me or show me where any of the big 5 would be willing to sit idly by while Iran makes a mockery and perhaps a wasteland of America's #1 foreign ally in Israel.

Former Mossad Chief Meir Dagan says NO.. and if you recall, he also told us in late 2002 that Iraq had no WMDs.

Originally Posted by Libhater

Setting any talk of useless UN intervention in this nuclear bomb dilemma aside, is there anyone here the least bit concerned that when Iran does get full capability of a nuclear arsenal, that they won't use them immediately against Israel and or Western nations? so what's to prevent them from nukeing their most hated enemy, Israel?

Well obviously there are many here who don't think that Iran will use nuclear weapons. Iran have the military strength to invade and conquer any of the countries that they border with and have not done so in the last several centuries, so what makes you think that they will attack any country now?

Originally Posted by Libhater

C-mon now, these terrorist laden raghead nations have already shown that they're willing to exercise suicide bombings

So what makes you think that a suicide bomber is any worse that any other bomber? I know that if my country was at war with an enemy, I would prefer my enemy to use suicide bombers; it is a one off tactic!

Originally Posted by Libhater

And hasn't that punk leader of Iran already threatened Israel and America with annihilation on numerous occasions?

Not this crap again. The answer is no!

I am sure its not lost on Iran that no one is threatening India, Pakistan and Korea.

Attack Iran' and AIPAC's infamous chutzpah

Originally Posted by creation

Um peace? Its not their land? That sort of thing?

I am very sure unless Israel just goes away there is not a chance of peace with Iran and other Muslims

Originally Posted by submarinepainter

I am very sure unless Israel just goes away there is not a chance of peace with Iran and other Muslims

I would disagree. The Muslim nations are not opposed to Israel but instead are opposed to the violations of the rights of the non-Jewish population in Palestine by the zionist movement. I have suggested in other threads the necessary actions that Israel would need to take to be acceptable to the Palestinians as well as the Muslim nations but Israel will not take those steps because it is controlled by the zionist political movement. I find it ironic today when the US and Israel state that "Palestinian Statehood" must be accomplished by negotiation when the Zionists created Israel without any negotiations. It is a double standard that we see related to the US and Israel. The "We didn't do it but you must" political argument is one based upon hypocracy. The "Israel can have nuclear weapons but Iran can't" reflects this same political hypocracy. Neither Israel (or Pakistan or India or N Korea) or Iran should have nuclear weapons.

Ultimately no nation should be allowed to use a nuclear weapon without facing nuclear annihilation if they do so.

Originally Posted by peoplevsmedia

The part in red... that is where I stopped reading, I need some proof on that and if you can provide this proof you need say no more, I will be happy to jump over to your side, my own countries government side. it would be a pleasant jump into comfort, but I need proof that you did not just pull it out of your oven.

Unfortunately no proof was ever provided, as usual, this is bull crap.

Originally Posted by submarinepainter

I am very sure unless Israel just goes away there is not a chance of peace with Iran and other Muslims

Interesting. But arent you just another otherwise very intelligent anti-muslim american who takes really little interest in these affairs.

If I was to tell you that has already said that they will go along with whatever the palestinians want would that sway you?

The thing is I doubt because I think you suspect that muslims will always be trying to make war before peace. What youve been told in america has brought you to this conclusion.

Originally Posted by peoplevsmedia

Unfortunately no proof was ever provided, as usual, this is bull crap.

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Sorry to disappoint you.

Originally Posted by Subdermal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9zcElqetqk

Sorry to disappoint you.

What he said was that Zionism would disappear from the face of the earth.. much like Nazism disappeared.. Germany is still around.

MEMRI's job is to keep Israelis scared.. Its the glue of Zionism.

Remember when Ariel Sharon P*SSED off the French Jews? He went to Paris and started telling them that they should move to Israel and bring their money because France was too dangerous for them and anti-semitism was rife? Must have been 2002.

Its all very transparent. Why don't you see it?