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    Quote Originally Posted by Awryly View Post

    And Israel is not one of those five. It developed its weapons with nary a whimper from the West. And probably with US help.

    Yet the West screams blue murder when Iran does the same.
    Iran hasn't curried our favor.......
    Last edited by Ironball; Nov 07 2011 at 04:45 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva_TD View Post
    http://news.yahoo.com/israel-test-fi...XN0Aw--;_ylv=3



    http://news.yahoo.com/israel-specula...XN0Aw--;_ylv=3

    This presents a scary scenario as Iran has its nuclear enrichment facilities, the probably target of an Israeli attack, scattered all over the country with some being underground, such as at Isfahan, which are hardened against conventional attacks including the “block buster” bombs that the United States has previously furnished to Israel. The only possible attack that would be successful is a nuclear attack.

    So what would the US and other nuclear weapons nations authorized by the NPT do in the event of Israel starting a nuclear war against Iran?

    The five nations that are authorized under the NPT to have nuclear weapons have an obligation to the entire world to ensure that any rogue nuclear weapon nation does not start a nuclear war. We cannot allow a nuclear war by any nations and those nations which are authorized to have nuclear weapons must, by all reasonable standards, respond to any nuclear attack with a nuclear response against the attacking nation. I can see no other options available. If the authorized nuclear weapons nations do not respond with nuclear force then nothing prevents any nation from starting a nuclear war.

    Will the US, China, Britain, France and Russia respond with nuclear force if Israel initiates a nuclear war against Iran? That is unquestionably what they would need to do if we are to prevent any nation from starting a nuclear war. And we cannot allow Israel or any other nation to start a nuclear war. The same criteria of “mutually assured destruction” which prevented a nuclear war between the former USSR and the US needs to be in place. If Israel starts a nuclear war in must face the consequences of its total annihilation by a nuclear response. We cannot allow Israel or any nation to use nuclear weapons, period.

    Israel must be warned that any nuclear attack on any nation for any reason is unacceptable and will result in nuclear retalliation against Israel. This matter is way above any other political considerations. Nuclear wars simply can't be allowed and the threat must be real if we are to avoid the total destruction of all life on Earth through nuclear war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo View Post
    No toss-up at all: Iran is just a somewhat distorted democracy, 'Israel' a bad re-make of the Third Reich, produced by fat clowns.
    Every time I think I have seen the STUPIDEST POSSIBLE THING posted here...I see something like this that lowers the bar. Ye gods.
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    Ive given you the answer youve been demanding.

    Do you have any response?

    Come on were interested to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WatcherOfTheGate View Post
    Wont happen. Next.
    Perhaps true but if a real threat of nuclear retalliation is not used to prevent a nation from starting a nuclear war then what would prevent any nation from starting a nuclear war? The policy of mutually assured destruction (MAD) worked for decades during the cold war and cannot be abandoned as it is the only means I'm aware of that is so severe as to prevent a nation from starting a nuclear war. It is the only policy that eliminates any need for any additional nations to develop nuclear weapons.

    The five authorized nuclear weapon nations under the NPT must assure all other nations that they will never be attacked with nuclear weapons because any nation initiating a nuclear war will be annihilated for doing so. That guarentee must be made to all nations.

    Israel should never have to worry about Iran developing a nuclear weapon and using it on Israel because the "Big Five" as I would call them would retalliate with a nuclear response against Iran. Iran should never have to worry about Israel attacking it with nuclear weapons because the "big five" would retallitate with a nuclear response. There can be no "politics" involved in this retalliation and no nation should be exempt. If the US was to attack another nations with nuclear weapons then the remaining "big four" should be obligated to initiate a nuclear retalliatory response against the United States.

    There can be no exceptions to the policy of MAD. Use a nuke and be annihilated is the only deterant to nuclear war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva_TD View Post
    Perhaps true but if a real threat of nuclear retalliation is not used to prevent a nation from starting a nuclear war then what would prevent any nation from starting a nuclear war? The policy of mutually assured destruction (MAD) worked for decades during the cold war and cannot be abandoned as it is the only means I'm aware of that is so severe as to prevent a nation from starting a nuclear war. It is the only policy that eliminates any need for any additional nations to develop nuclear weapons.

    The five authorized nuclear weapon nations under the NPT must assure all other nations that they will never be attacked with nuclear weapons because any nation initiating a nuclear war will be annihilated for doing so. That guarentee must be made to all nations.

    Israel should never have to worry about Iran developing a nuclear weapon and using it on Israel because the "Big Five" as I would call them would retalliate with a nuclear response against Iran. Iran should never have to worry about Israel attacking it with nuclear weapons because the "big five" would retallitate with a nuclear response. There can be no "politics" involved in this retalliation and no nation should be exempt. If the US was to attack another nations with nuclear weapons then the remaining "big four" should be obligated to initiate a nuclear retalliatory response against the United States.

    There can be no exceptions to the policy of MAD. Use a nuke and be annihilated is the only deterant to nuclear war.
    I agree and that is why it won't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WatcherOfTheGate View Post
    I agree and that is why it won't happen.
    Then we can be assured of a nuclear war in the future and I find that unacceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva_TD View Post
    Then we can be assured of a nuclear war in the future and I find that unacceptable.
    There will be no nuclear war because the world knows what happens if they drop the bomb. Ain't going to happen. It is a pipe dream. Nothing to worry about...move along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironball View Post
    Iran hasn't curried our favor.......
    Iran hasn't got the American politicians by the short and curly. I'd say 'testicles' there, but they manifestly don't have any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarlaxle View Post
    Every time I think I have seen the STUPIDEST POSSIBLE THING posted here...I see something like this that lowers the bar. Ye gods.

    Oh dear! I have brought a blush to the fairest cheek! Close those nunnery windows do!
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