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Old 08-06-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default Why is everyone upset re: Obama's comments invading pakistan

Why is everyone freaked out? Bush said the same thing last year.

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NEW YORK (CNN) -- President Bush said Wednesday he would order U.S. forces to go after Osama bin Laden inside Pakistan if he received good intelligence on the fugitive al Qaeda leader's location.

"Absolutely," Bush said.

The president made the comments Wednesday in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer. (Watch Bush state his position on Iran and the war on terror -- 18:06)

Although Pakistan has said it won't allow U.S. troops to operate within its territory, "we would take the action necessary to bring him to justice."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/...ntv/index.html

How "naive" of Bush. He's certainly showing his "inexperience". How dare a politician speak publicly about such things. Now it makes sense that other Democratic candidates might attempt to criticize Obama for it. Republicans, however, look like pathetic hypocrites on this matter.
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I'm thinking the problem is that Obama hasn't been "handled" properly by his people. One of the guys on the Republican debate noted that what he most likely meant was that we should pressure Pakistan to let us in if they are not up to the challenge. Invading Pakistan's tribal areas against the will of Pakistan's people and government would obviously be counterproductive and to suggest it is naive.
The worse line for Obama was the one on nuclear weapons. I agree with him 100%... but as a matter of pragmatism, you just can't take the use of nukes off the table. You need to be able to threaten their use at least in the event that they are used on us.
I'm not so worried about Obama's foreign policy though because obviously once in office he'd use advisors.
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In another broadside indicating the increasingly heated race for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., implied Thursday that comments made by Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., were careless and unpresidential.

Sen. Clinton was referring to Obama’s statement earlier in the day that he had ruled out using nuclear weapons against al Qaeda targets in Afghanistan or Pakistan.

Clinton also suggested Obama’s high-profile speech earlier in the week in which he said would be willing to invade Pakistan to attack high-profile al Qaeda targets, given actionable intelligence, was inappropriate, further evidence that she is painting her challenger as unprepared for the job of commander in chief.
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NEW YORK (CNN) -- President Bush said Wednesday he would order U.S. forces to go after Osama bin Laden inside Pakistan if he received good intelligence on the fugitive al Qaeda leader's location.

"Absolutely," Bush said.

The president made the comments Wednesday in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer. (Watch Bush state his position on Iran and the war on terror -- 18:06)

Although Pakistan has said it won't allow U.S. troops to operate within its territory, "we would take the action necessary to bring him to justice."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/...ntv/index.html

How "naive" of Bush. He's certainly showing his "inexperience". How dare a politician speak publicly about such things. Now it makes sense that other Democratic candidates might attempt to criticize Obama for it. Republicans, however, look like pathetic hypocrites on this matter.

ja hey.... good point that.
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Well, this is the only good thing I've heard him (Obama) say so far.
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Well, I personally believe Pakistan will have to be attacked sooner or later through fault of their own. Musharrah is not our allie. He is an appeaser. Do you think he's really going to spend what little money his government has on recruiting soldiers to hunt for Alqaeda and the Taliban? Such nonsense. His country is strictly anti-American and he's taken heat already for what little help he's given us. Unfortunately, Bush is unwise and naive and nothing in this war has gone right. The Military must have the feeling the Federal Government thinks they're their little loyal puppets. Bush is so God(*)(*)(*)(*) delireous, he was thinking of invading Iran. He must be on drugs. Our army right now couldn't invade Portugal.
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Bush is so God(*)(*)(*)(*) delireous, he was thinking of invading Iran. He must be on drugs. Our army right now couldn't invade Portugal.
Betcha we could invade Canada though.. hell come to think of it the L.A.P.D. could probably invade Canada without too much problem... so anyway, we burn down all their igloos and take all their beer. That'll teach 'em to mess with US again.
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I believe it was during the buildup to the second Iraq war, Harper's magazine took President Bush's reasons for invading Iraq (WMD's, the chance of future altercations, etc.) and applied them to other countries to see if it was more plausible to attack another country based on the President's own reasons. The country that topped the list? Pakistan.
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We certainly shouldn't be standing behind Musharaf. I used to think so, but not anymore.
Had he stepped down a while ago, he'd be electable. After all he did do great things for his country. But he is the typical paranoid military despot with delusions of grandeur.
Pakistan is actually a moderate country in no danger of electing any Islamic radicals. But Musharaf's bullheaded oppression is creating an environment that plays into the hands of the terrorists (who have likely infiltrated the ranks of his corrupt, unaccountable bureaucracy... so say those in the chief radical Islamic party of the country). Musharaf's oppression crushes moderate opposition and wears legitimacy.
Meanwhile he ignores the poor. But like Hamas in Palestine... the Islamic radicals will not. They use "charity" to make up for what Musharaf does not address. Give it a few years and it may be possible for radicals to gain a strong foothold... and the prospect might bring in radicals from all over.

As it is the ball is in Musharaf's court. Will he step down and allow the people of Pakistan to elect a center-left or center-right candidate of their choice... or will he clamp down with an iron grip and create a situation where moderates are non-actors and radicals gain power?
We should encourage him to step down.
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