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09-01-2007, 01:07 AM
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Westerns! we must talk!
Hi and peace be upon all of you!
welcome to this topic, and I hope we make a good and peacefull discussion. I'm and Arab Muslim man, and I'm proud of this! I spoke a lot with westerns about Islam and Muslims and I remarked that westerns don't understand an important thing, or just they don't take it in consideration when they judge Muslims and call them bad or terrorists or any other thing. Dear westerns, Muslims are different, they don't represent Islam all of them! some of them are religious others are not! and I'm going to give a pourcentage for every type of Muslims! 1- The real Muslims: those understand Islam very well, they represent it in the best way! they make no sins! when you see them and talk with them you will just love them and feel safty and peace with them. and those are about 10% of all Muslims. 2- The weak Muslims: those people love their religion and try to be good and real Muslims, but they make some sins, they don't know many things about their religion! those are about 50% of all Muslims. 3- The extremists: those people have their own explanation of Islam, they are isolated to the socity because it's a socity of sins like they think. if you know a terrorist it must be one of them. and those are 0.1% from all Muslims. 4- The bad Muslims: those people were born Muslims, but they don't do any thing from Islam! they live a life of sins, nothing is prohibited for them. and those people are about 35% of all Muslims. 5- The secular Muslims:the rest of Muslims, less than 5% of them. and those people make other Muslims hate westerns! they critisize Islam in barbaric way wich make other Muslims angry of them and the west, because they represent the west. they don't help to make peace between Muslims and westerns. Theese are the 5 types of Muslims, and as you see there is only one type who represent really Islam! the real Muslims. when you talk about terrorists, you must know that your talking about the 3d type wich is 0.1%, and those don't represent Islam at all! when you talk about criminal and bad people, you must know that you are talking about the 4th type and those are bad Muslims who don't know any thing about their religion and they don't practice it! Islam is innocent from what they do! when you see in TV some Muslim who protest and destroy cars and shops and every thing, you must know that those people are from the 3d and 4th type and some of the 2d type! because the real Muslims never destroy things when they protest or when they are angry! they just protest in a civilized way! WHY you see only the Muslims who don't represent Islam correctly in TV?? asck this to your TV sets who focus in the wrong picture and don't tell you all the truth! they show you a part of the picture and this is true, but not all the picture! they just want you to hate us and vote for those who want to make wars against us! it's simply like that! I hope you understood my idea! and I hope to find the good people in the west who want to start a new start! and who want to discuss any thing about Islam in a civilized and respectfull way! thanks for you time and understanding. peace be upon you. 
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09-01-2007, 06:45 AM
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What many of us do NOT understand is how you allow the 0.1% in your religion to have so much power. Why don't the other 99% of you stand up AGAINST this scourge on your religion? Why don't you speak out more against what they do?
I know that if 0.1% of my religion....Christians......were banded together to kill anyone who disagrees with them and doesn't believe as they do..........I'd be speaking up about it. I'd be doing everything in my power to see that they were defeated and stopped!! So.....my question is.....why????
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09-01-2007, 07:08 AM
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JP beat me to the punch.
I'm a Catholic. While I don't "preach it on the mountain," I'm comfortable proclaiming my faith, when asked. However, I am absolutely disgusted at the "religious right" who want to push biblical morals into law. I understand that "laws" are for people, and "religion" is for individuals. I disagree with people who want to put one religion's views into law, while ignoring other religions. It doesn't make that religion wrong, but it does make them look bigoted. So yes...it only hurts muslims, when no one comes forward to defend themselves. I know you're out there. I've spoken to a few muslims who have no problem living among a populace of various religions. They live peacefully, and reap the benefits of acceptance and harmony with everyone around them. I've had friendly debates about the Bible vs. the Koran, and no one has sawed my freakin' head off. There is no animosity between two friends. And what is with CAIR? Where is their outrage? Where are their messages to their psycho bretheren, over there? Where are their cries for the terrorists to lay down their weapons? The famous quote, "A failure to act, is an action of itself," holds a lot of water here. Their failure to act is viewed as siding with the enemy. They don't have to "side with the infidel" here. Just side against the radical fundamentalists. Side with the "rational muslims." ...and speak up.
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09-01-2007, 08:34 AM
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different church, same pew
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09-01-2007, 10:46 AM
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09-01-2007, 12:41 PM
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well gooooooleee jp
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09-01-2007, 12:49 PM
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This is a political forum not somewhere where people should preach there chosen way, hello!!!!!!!!!!
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09-03-2007, 01:14 AM
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Thanks for asking JP5, and theese are the details :)
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JP5, we don't allow and never allowed the 0.1% of our nation to have what you called "power" and we never told them to act on our name or in Islam's name! we never did that! you must understand, dear JP5, that in the Arab world we have only dictatorships, supported by the west, in our countries we haven't the right to protest or to say no! and those extremist (who were not extremist before) saw how the west is attacking Islam, supporting Israel against us, ... and they also saw how our Arab leaders don't do any thing or say any thing to deffend Islam and Palestine!! those 0.1% became, like the other 99% very angry against their governement first, and against the west second! but the diffrence is that the 0.1% decided to act and deffend their religion and land in the way they can! they can't own planes and missils that can reach America from Afganistan! but they are able to blow up America's embassies in the world! they are able to do things like this! and this is wrong and don't go with the islamic teaching. those extremist love their religion, their land and just want to live in peace without being attacked or insulted by the west! they lived under a BIG repressing and pressure because their governement, who don't let them protest peacefully, don't deffend them! they found themselves obliged to deffend their beliefs and Land in the way they can against the "bad people" who don't let them live in peace! this is very complicated, you need to know many things to see all the picture. And as I told you above, those 0.1% are just 0.1% but your media speak only about them and show you only them! they don't show you Muslim Imams who denounce the terrorism! you don't here about Alqaradawi, Tantawi, Alareefee, Alsudaysee, AlAjmee and many other Imams? they simply quote some quotes from the Quran and the Hadith to warn Muslims to not be with any one who do terrorist acts and kill innocents, from those quotes I write theese: "If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people." (Quran, 5:32) There is also a very known Hadith (teatchings of the Prophet Muhammed), and this is my translation from Arabic: "If any one (a Muslim) kills a "Moahed" (a non Muslims that came to Muslim's Land for Tourism or trade or any other peacefull reason), he will never smell the odor of the Paradise, and the odor of the Paradise can be smelled fourty years of march far from the Paradise!" The meaning of the Hadith is that killing the "Moahed" make the Muslim as an infidel, he will absolutly go the hellfire and he will never see the Paradise! and this means that killing innocent people is a very big crime according Islam! Dear JP5, you asked me why we don't speak out more against what those 0.1% do? this shows me how you don't understand many things about us! do you know how many are the Arab coutries? they are 22! do you know how many country of them practice the "Sharia" (Islamic law)? they are 0! most of our governement don't care when Islam is attacked or insulted because they are not religious people and because they don't want to be criticized by the west (our "dear" governement don't want to criticize western media who criticizd Islam, because they fear to be criticized by western media that can show to the western people how a bad terranies they are, they don't want that westerns discover their bad face, becasue this will make Humanitarian organizations moove against them). SO, those terranies don't let their nations protest peacefully against the westerns insults and attacks, and this make people feel the injustice and that no one will support them and help them! and this creates extremism and terrorism! it's so simple! I wish I answered your question with details, and if you have any other questions just ask! in the other hand, for you case, yes you can do any thing to stop the 0.1% of extremist if they exist in your religion! because you can act! no one will put you in the jail if you go in the streets and protest against them! one other thing, you really have a 0.1% of extremists! they are in the white house today! their leader is called Jeorge W. Bush! the man who helped the 9/11 attacks to hapen to have the excuse to attack and kill Muslims! (before refusing this idea read the book "The New Pearl Harbor" written by David Ray Griffen). peace be upon you!
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