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Old 09-12-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default More (man-made) Global Warming Hoopajoop

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A new analysis of peer-reviewed literature reveals that more than 500 scientists have published evidence refuting at least one element of current man-made global warming scares. More than 300 of the scientists found evidence that 1) a natural moderate 1,500-year climate cycle has produced more than a dozen global warmings similar to ours since the last Ice Age and/or that 2) our Modern Warming is linked strongly to variations in the sun's irradiance. "This data and the list of scientists make a mockery of recent claims that a scientific consensus blames humans as the primary cause of global temperature increases since 1850," said Hudson Institute Senior Fellow Dennis Avery.
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Despite being published in such journals such as Science, Nature and Geophysical Review Letters, these scientists have gotten little media attention.
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/s...e,176495.shtml

See, this is the problem. We're being "had." The media innundates us with all this "doom and gloom" global warming B.S., but they completely ignore all the statistics and documentation that refutes it. That is NOT honest reporting.

But that just falls in line with my rationale with the whole issue...sensationalist doomsday chit sells. Just watch television. The Disaste..err...Discovery Channel pumps out shows about "cataclysmic" weather (that also wipes out thousands of people). The SciFi Channel is pimping movies about solar flares that devastate the planet. Sigourney Weaver always had to end those "Planet Earth" shows with some dig about how "mankind is destroying the planet." Phooey.
Hell, it's why Al Gore is pimping it. It's making him RICH. He's pandering to the fears of society to make a profit (well...he also makes a profit on that zinc mine he's got on his property as well).

People WANT to believe Man Made Global Warming. Regardless of whether it's bonafide FACT or not, is irrelevant.
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The best evidence still shows that global warming is very much linked to variables created by man or controllable by man. The sun thing has been substantially refuted by evidence I've read... and as for natural cycles, it might be so that there have been similar ones... but that doesn't make it any more or less threatening.
What is hyped is the amount of immediate danger. It's not going to end the world... However it will cause disaster with a lot of people in the poorest areas of the world.
The other problem is that the hypists are obsessed with cutting carbon emissions now... a too little-too late idea that will be expensive but produce little in the way of results. What we need is better technology and the diffusion of that technology.
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Dennis Avery is not exactly an unbiased, credible source.

He also has it in for organic farming.
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Default It's not about global warming.

It's about pollution. Global warming is something of a distraction, but it's a ploy of big business to divert attention from the real, obvious, criminal level of damage being done to the ecosystem by industry.

See, while we're all talking about global warming as a specific phenomenon, big business can argue about that rather than discuss how they've done terrible damage to the food chain, to the atmosphere, to humanity itself and even to the very weather.

What it really comes down to is that it's cheaper to make the rest of us clean up their mess. They don't want to. And by the ethics of business, which is to say, the bottom line, they shouldn't have to. It's just more cost-effective to make people sick. And for the really clever and disgusting businessmen out there, the fact that there's a lot of money to be made in making people sick and then keeping them alive.

Pollution is not okay. And that's what the argument is really about.
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It's about pollution. Global warming is something of a distraction, but it's a ploy of big business to divert attention from the real, obvious, criminal level of damage being done to the ecosystem by industry.

See, while we're all talking about global warming as a specific phenomenon, big business can argue about that rather than discuss how they've done terrible damage to the food chain, to the atmosphere, to humanity itself and even to the very weather.

What it really comes down to is that it's cheaper to make the rest of us clean up their mess. They don't want to. And by the ethics of business, which is to say, the bottom line, they shouldn't have to. It's just more cost-effective to make people sick. And for the really clever and disgusting businessmen out there, the fact that there's a lot of money to be made in making people sick and then keeping them alive.

Pollution is not okay. And that's what the argument is really about.
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