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Default "Affirmative action" decreased the number of black lawyers.

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2007/08/l...tion-gail.html

Also gives an example of how professional schools keep secret their antiwhite discrimination practices and stats.
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http://isteve.blogspot.com/2007/08/law-school-affirmative-action-gail.html

Also gives an example of how professional schools keep secret their antiwhite discrimination practices and stats.
Is this any surprise to anyone?

Serves the black community right for not speaking out against AA.
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Did it decrease the number of white female lawyers?

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Default The study was about blacks.

Brutha, if it's not too much trouble, would you mind reading the link before commenting?
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Brutha, if it's not too much trouble, would you mind reading the link before commenting?


LOL oh now you speak since I spoke, but that was my point it was a study on only blacks. Is that because AA is only for black people?

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What difference does it make, brutha? Do you think I should be for AA since white women benefit from it? Should I be for it now that I know it hurts blacks? Shouldn't YOU be the one rethinking your position for those reasons?
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[quote="The12thMan";p="406056"]What difference does it make, brutha?

Alot of difference.

Do you think I should be for AA since white women benefit from it?

Why is it that when AA is mentioned the arguement is against black people not white women?



Mr. Sander calculated that there are fewer black attorneys today than there would have been if law schools had practiced color-blind admissions--about 7.9% fewer by his reckoning.

Wasn't that the reason AA was created because the admissions weren't color-blind.

He identified the culprit as the practice of admitting minority students to schools for which they are inadequately prepared. In essence, they have been "matched" to the wrong school.

Hmmm, so in other words they should have been sent to vocational colleges to be tradesmen instead of lawyers. Baloney.

Should I be for it now that I know it hurts blacks?
Shouldn't YOU be the one rethinking your position for those reasons?[/quote]

LMAO if it actually hurt black people do you think cats like Blade, Valor, etc. would be against it.

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Great answer. Your argument is idiotic. Somehow, AA is ok because it's not only racist, it's also sexist. Why does that make it a good thing?

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Why is it that when AA is mentioned the argument is against black people not white women?
Because even when it's not solely a racial discussion, you always assume it's about race. In this case, we're talking about how it hurts blacks. It is possible for you to have an intelligent discussion on the subject? Can you tell me why you are for it?

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Wasn't that the reason AA was created because the admissions weren't color-blind.
And, after 40 years, you still believe that admissions cannot possibly fair. Is it that you believe all people are racist or do you believe blacks can't compete? Pick one.
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another racial rant. jake,

from that hogwash article:
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after 30 seconds of contemplation allow me to offer this plausible alternative rationale for his findings:
the consistent low pass rates of the bar exam by African-American students, whether they attended a "white" law school or a historically black college or university (HBCU) is directly related to the disadvantaged educational opportunities that causes them to warrant AA opportunities to begin with. if we were to hold a 100 yard dash, only the African-American runners' start line was 120 years from the finish line, would you think it reasonable for them to be competitive in that race since all participants would begin at the sound of the same starting gun and would conclude at the same finish line? likewise for those who take the same bar exam at the same time. the non-disadvantaged students are likely to do better than those who attended lesser schools prior to law school.
the best indicator to identify who is likely to attend college is the individual who grew up with parents who attended college. where does that put the African-American students compared to non-minority students? if you are twice as smart as i think you are you will recognize that the expectation for students who had an inferior pre-college education, who had to work to support the family, who had limited parental support, is that - on average - they will not achieve at the rate of the non-disadvantaged students. the study correlates that expectation. only a racist boor would conclude the lesser academic outcome was due to other factors.

too bad you did not examine a valid, troubling outcome. did you realize that desegregation - sought by the African-American community - was responsible for devestating the black business community? that fact will probably excite you enough to take your sheet to the dry cleaners. "yep, black folks screwed themselves by seeking desegregation" you can explain to all your friend over a chaw. being unwelcome customers in most white owned establishments, African-Americans operated businesses to meet the needs of the black community. when desegregation opened the door of the white-owned businesses to all, that siphoned off much of the traffic from the black-owned businesses. the African-American business communities whithered and became prime targets for gentrification funded by Nixon's community development block grants. so, jake, if you are looking for a real tragedy, where the black community suffered adverse results due to winning the segregation battle, there it is.
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Alot of difference.
Great answer. Your argument is idiotic. Somehow, AA is ok because it's not only racist, it's also sexist. Why does that make it a good thing?

Oh its racist and sexist, so was it racism and sexism that created it?

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Why is it that when AA is mentioned the argument is against black people not white women?
Because even when it's not solely a racial discussion, you always assume it's about race.

Ok show me one quote on these threads where someone was speaking against AA and they used white women as the reason it was racist or discriminatory.

In this case, we're talking about how it hurts blacks. It is possible for you to have an intelligent discussion on the subject? Can you tell me why you are for it?

We don't know that it hurts blacks. I can have an intelligent discussion can you. I believe AA needs to be revised, because it doesn't help those of whom it was designed to. AA will no longer be needed when racism in hiring and admissions is no longer practiced. So if you can explain to me that we live in a Colorblind Society and these practices no longer exist I will denounce it today.

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Wasn't that the reason AA was created because the admissions weren't color-blind.
And, after 40 years, you still believe that admissions cannot possibly fair.

Sure they can be fair, but are they. Why is there not an outcry against people being admitted in to colleges just because their great grandfather, grandfather and father went to school there? Same with hiring practices is that not a type of advantage?

Is it that you believe all people are racist or do you believe blacks can't compete? Pick one.


So in other words racism and discrimination don't exist in this country anymore, so the need for AA is over. BTW AA has nothing to do with whether one can compete or not, it is in place to make sure that one gets the opportunity to compete.

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