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Default kids get detention for hugging other kids

Wow - this seems to be going on all over the place.

I just heard this story on Fox, about some teenage girl in Illinois
somewhere, who got two days of detention for hugging a couple of
her friends on campus.

So I checked into this thing - and lo and behold, look what I found -

This is going on all over the place!

Vrginia, Massachusetts, .... it's like, what the f.... ????

The "logic" around this thing, seems to involve "public displays of affection".

So, I guess a hug, is a "public display of affection". I mean, a "little one", right? Not like a french kiss or anything....

But so, it seems the PC crowd, is trying to teach kids "not to do this in public", at a very young age.

What do you think?

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/e...?storyid=84511

http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/06/11149/

http://wheelz.blogspot.com/2005/06/e...ntion-for.html

etc - Google "detention hugging" and you'll get 344,000 hits.....
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:00 AM
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Back when I was in high school I swear you didn't get in trouble unless you made it to third base in the hallway. Hugging? Come on...I remember hugging my favorite teacher on the last day of school before graduation.
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Wow - this gets better and better - so, I just saw the video on this thing - the girl, who's maybe 11 or 12, was showing the reporter "exactly what she did", so she's standing there next to her young friend, who kinda looks shorter and younger than she is, and she just kinda puts her arm around her "sideways", the way two guys might do if they're engaged in "pssst. secret conversation.... hey, lemme tell you what happened with my girlfriend", that kinda thing, I mean, it was entirely innocent, not even a suggestion of any sexuality, right?

So now, apparently, this particular girl just likes to hug her friends. She's been warned twice already, by the school administration, that she shouldn't be doing that in public.

And, she's kinda standing there telling this reporter, "I have no idea what I'm being punished for, I was just trying to be nice to my friends".

(where's that "shoots self in head" smilie, that things never around when I need it....)
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Default This can't be a good sign of anything.

Somehow I think this just generally bodes really ill for society.

When I was in highschool (which wasn't that long ago), making out in the hallways was kind of an artform.

Are there really people who are bothered by it, or something? And if so -- why?
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"You get into shades of gray," Kilmer Principal Deborah Hernandez said. "The kids say, 'If he can high-five, then I can do this.' "
Shades of gray? Sheesh, These people are idiots. I can't even tell if they are talking about the opposite sex or everyone. Sounds like you couldn't even give your best friend of the same sex a hug when her moron boyfriend breaks up with her. If the idiot principal doesn't know where to draw the line, she shouldn't be in charge. Surely there must be a grownup around for her to consult.

The schools here generally haven't changed since I was a student. Holding hands was OK, kissing was not.
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The schools here generally haven't changed since I was a student. Holding hands was OK, kissing was not.
What part of the country are you in, 12th?

Out here in LA ("major metropolitan area", right), there's like "way more students" than there are teachers and administrators and security guards, in most of the schools.

The reality out here, is that students just kinda ignore the rules, for the most part.

Really - I mean, I've been to the inner city schools "a lot", one of my best buds is a science teacher in the 'hood, and so on.... and it's like, these kids, they just kinda "show up", but other than that, they pretty much do whatever they want. You know, my bud, as a teacher, can tell some kid twelve times in a row, to toss his can of Coke into the trash can, and he won't do it, right? He'll just sit there sippin' out the thing with this dumb smile on his face, and then when teach says, "go see the principal", the kid doesn't want to do that either, he's still sittin' there sippin' his Coke, right?

So I mean, these kids - on any given 10am class break, you can see a few of 'em passing around joints in the hallway, a few more with the colored t-shirts passing "something else" in paper bags, and then there's always a few of 'em huddled in a corner somewhere, doin' the nasty or somethin' - I mean, it does get like that, it's like, mozie down the stairway by the little emergency exit door, and you'll see three or four couples down there, they're like "sharing space" and ignoring each other just so they can get it on with their partners, that kinda thing.....

Do you see anything like that in your neck o' the woods? Just curious.....
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I bet it's not happening at Kilmer Middle School either.
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Wow - this seems to be going on all over the place.

I just heard this story on Fox, about some teenage girl in Illinois
somewhere, who got two days of detention for hugging a couple of
her friends on campus.

So I checked into this thing - and lo and behold, look what I found -

This is going on all over the place!

Vrginia, Massachusetts, .... it's like, what the f.... ????

The "logic" around this thing, seems to involve "public displays of affection".

So, I guess a hug, is a "public display of affection". I mean, a "little one", right? Not like a french kiss or anything....

But so, it seems the PC crowd, is trying to teach kids "not to do this in public", at a very young age.

What do you think?

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/e...?storyid=84511

http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/06/11149/

http://wheelz.blogspot.com/2005/06/e...ntion-for.html

etc - Google "detention hugging" and you'll get 344,000 hits.....
if the teenage pregnancy rate wasn't so HIGH in the Bible-Belt states then maybe they could relax the regulations.

nothing more than responding to lawsuits.
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Sounds like the same puritanical garbage that is tearing apart the educational system. Who cares if American children are more violent than ever, failing in math and science, and can't locate their own state on the map? Just as long as they aren't hugging. Something needs to be done with the failing educational system in this country.
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It has nothing to do with puritanism.

It's schools covering their asses for fear of harassment lawsuits.

This is the same reason that they've taken the swings off the playgrounds at many schools, and monkey bars, and a lot of other gym equipment that was normal in my era: Parents have sued.

So, it has everything to do with the litigiousness of American society and nothing to do with uptight pilgrims.
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