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Old 11-14-2007, 05:00 AM
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I hate her for her arrogance, and her phoniness - an' you know what ah'm talkin' about.
Smugness is the term I use. I don't like all that either. But I try not to let crap like that sway my decision. I figure most politicians are like that under the surface even if not above it.
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If status quo is what one wants, then Hillary can project that image as well as anyone. But make no mistake.............she will never settle for simply "keeping things stable." She has ideas, concepts, and an agenda she worked out many years ago, and will not be denied her opportunity to implement them. She is the leader we all need, much more than just an office occupier.
Even if true, she's enough of a realist not to do anything too drastic. She'll have her hands full with enough to keep her from trying anything too crazy.
I think both her hardcore supporters and her hardcore haters have some pretty cloudy visions of what exactly she is.
She's arrogant, pragmatic, and possibly has delusions of grandeur... but she's not overly married to any particular political agenda.
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I think it's strange people think Hillary is the big-time socialist. I think Edwards deserves that honor. Hillary is a status quo candidate plain and simple. She'll keep things stable while we undo the damage done over the last eight years.
If status quo is what one wants, then Hillary can project that image as well as anyone. But make no mistake.............she will never settle for simply "keeping things stable." She has ideas, concepts, and an agenda she worked out many years ago, and will not be denied her opportunity to implement them. She is the leader we all need, much more than just an office occupier.
please let us know what hillary's ideas, concepts, and an agenda for America are
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"I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers. We are the president."
Do you have a source for that quote?

That is hilarious. Either she thinks they are royalty, she's started talking like a borg, or she really did think she was the co-president.
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Do you have a source for that quote?

That is hilarious. Either she thinks they are royalty, she's started talking like a borg, or she really did think she was the co-president.
I just got it from some quote website, where you put in her name, and it spews out a bunch of quotes she's said. It didn't link to any news articles or anything.

Maybe it DID, but her brownshirts got to the website.
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How many people actually bother to inform themselves? (I'd like to hear your thoughts...)
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More than you think. Especially now...Cable and the internet have made it much easier. People are far more saturated by media than they were 20 or 40 years ago.
Yea, saturated with misinformation, misleading bias political dribble, social discrimination, and out-n-out lies! The American public has never been such uninformed mushrooms as they are today!

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Virtually everyone.

Refusing to vote is itself a vote...you are effectively voting for whoever wins.
Supremacist logic at it’s finest?! Although there are those who simply do not care, and will accept whatever they get, the majority of people who do not vote will tell you, if someone would bother to ask them, neither frontrunner, or rear runner either for that matter, represent them or their views, and actually realize the system has been compromised by a controlling minority!

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Apathy is a choice. It means you are equally satisfied enough with all the frontrunners that you wont put the effort in to opposing them.
It’s not “all” apathy, it is for the most part disgust, pure unadulterated offensive, repulsive, nauseating, disgust in a system that caters to the rich/elite (less than 20% of the entire population). These citizens, the largest political party (non-voters) who in most cases would like to make a difference simply does not have the money, resources, or the time (since most of them are killing themselves working on the treadmill of life) to challenge or defeat the one sided ideals of the controlling (good cop/bad cop) two party system that dominates the political landscape!


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For the President (in the last 40 years): 50-60%
For the US Congress (2006): 36.8%
For the US Senate (2006): 29.7%
The majority of those who do vote are extremist nut-jobs, who vote the party line, as if it were going to keep the world from ending! Many of the rest have placed blind confidence in a fantasy that they are part of the big picture, refusing to admit their overall insignificance.

It would be a safe bet that the non-voters are obviously the least represented, and the most abused/neglected members of our society since they have no voice whether they “choose” to vote for a democrat or a republican, or just stay at home.

It’s as highly likely that there has never been a legitimate election since the process began! Based solely on the fact that so many people seem to disagree with the results that always seem to place the same incompetent in office that the majority didn’t want in office the last time they were placed there! Not to mention all the inconsistencies and obvious attempts that are discovered in trying to sway the election for their chosen candidate!

SS is an anomaly anyway, and odds are if Hillary wins he will be on some chat line, somewhere boosting his ego, and boasting how he voted for the winner as usual!
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Do you have a source for that quote?

That is hilarious. Either she thinks they are royalty, she's started talking like a borg, or she really did think she was the co-president.
I just got it from some quote website, where you put in her name, and it spews out a bunch of quotes she's said. It didn't link to any news articles or anything.

Maybe it DID, but her brownshirts got to the website.

Boogie we need reliable sources and not some rambling from your fabricating mind. Where are the proofs and sources???? I don't believe this and I don't think you do either. You must have gotten a battery-operated doll from the republican's headquarter that says this and you believe it is genuine
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It’s not “all” apathy, it is for the most part disgust, pure unadulterated offensive, repulsive, nauseating, disgust in a system that caters to the rich/elite (less than 20% of the entire population).
I am unwilling to simply take your word for it.

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SS is an anomaly anyway, and odds are if Hillary wins he will be on some chat line, somewhere boosting his ego, and boasting how he voted for the winner as usual!
I can practically guarantee I will not ever vote for Hillary. Count on it. I would take any of the current Republicans (even the anti-war ones) over her.

It has nothing to do with being on the winning side...if Hillary wins I will not regret voting Republican.
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I am unwilling to simply take your word for it.
Never asked you too!

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I am holding them responsible for their own actions.
Excuse me but who are you again? Oh yea an anonymous character on a chat forum.

You break a window playing ball (or hit a home run), you can’t blame (give credit) little Johnny who decided to go fishing instead, that day! Blame or taking credit, goes to those who actually had something to do with an act, one way or the other. IOW, saying you are Spartacus is noble gesture right up to the point where they stick that pole up your arse too!

There is a reason why all the non-voters votes don’t automatically go to the winner! Cuz they have to earn it on their own, and it isn’t theirs to take!

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I can practically guarantee I will not ever vote for Hillary. Count on it. I would take any of the current Republicans (even the anti-war ones) over her.
Says the anonymous character on a chat forum! I suppose you want me to take your word for it too?

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It has nothing to do with being on the winning side...if Hillary wins I will not regret voting Republican.
Even though you are technically more of a liberal than you are a republican?
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Boogie we need reliable sources and not some rambling from your fabricating mind.
The irony, that this came from you, is overwhelming. When was the last time you provided a link?
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(CBS) To call them a political odd couple would be a rash understatement.

Conservative media mogul Rupert Murdoch will host a fundraiser for liberal New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, the Financial Times reports.

The mating ritual of the unlikely allies has been under way for months. Clinton set political tongues to wagging last month by attending a Washington party celebrating the 10th anniversary of Fox News, the cable news channel owned by Murdoch.

The Financial Times quoted one unnamed source as describing the Clinton-Murdoch connection in this way: "They have a respectful and cordial relationship. He has respect for the work she has done on behalf of New York. I wouldn't say it was illustrative of a close ongoing relationship. It is not like they are dining out together." http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1600694.shtml
So what does that do for your "Fox is Republican tv" theory?
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