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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushroom View Post
    Then how do some people go from being homeless one year, and making $40k+ the next year?
    Gee maybe they get off the butts and enjoy the benfits of capitalism and the free market?

    and they realize the left only wants to shackle them into a life of never ending dependence and decide that is not for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Gee maybe they get off the butts and enjoy the benfits of capitalism and the free market?

    and they realize the left only wants to shackle them into a life of never ending dependence and decide that is not for them?
    Liberals want to give them a hand. Republicans give them the boot.
    "Let's be blunt and acknowledge the biggest threat to the world's biggest economy are the cranks and crazies that have taken over a part of the Republican party," Australian treasurer, Wayne Swan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subdermal View Post
    Non sequitur. Not having 'fun' living that way in no way reflects on any obligation for society to give such people more. They must help themselves.

    And before you attempt to spray more detritus on the conversation, I did live as you're suggesting it would be fun to see, only in my case, our family income was about that inflation-adjusted level in a family of 6.

    It also a unique exposure of your own ideological motivations for you to admit that it would be 'fun' to see someone living at that level, regardless who they are, or were.



    For who? Speaking as someone who has had absolute first hand experience living in an ultra-low income household - and then who was homeless for a time - it is clear and apparent that your frame of reference is skewed.

    The person who had a higher standard of living and then lost it has a far harder time than those who have only known being poor.

    When you're poor, your appreciation of things is different. You don't know or understand that because you're projecting your present status on the discomfort of losing it. In short, you really don't know.

    My family was poor because my father had bad habits. He was lazy and undisciplined, among other problems. I know why we were poor, but while I lived it, I had no really sorrow or pity for my situation, and most who find themselves in a similar situation do not either - most feelings they have revolve around their own understanding that nearly the entire reason they are in that situation is due to themselves.

    And those who act on such feelings and route them constructively leave that circumstance, as I did. Those who do not have no one to blame but themselves - if they have such feelings - and (if they don't), they are content.

    So leave them be, and stop projecting your pity on those who do not require it.
    Seems to me, you're the one doing the projecting. I've been rich. I've been poor.....and not poor as a little kid that doesn't know anything else.

    One who knows poverty should have more empathy. There are many things in life that are beyond our control, like a lousy family situation. Some can persevere all by themselves and they should certainly be commended. Others want to but need help. And we all know that there are those that are unemployable. That's a statistical constant.

    Turning you back on those that have the ability and desire is both morally wrong and counter productive.
    "Let's be blunt and acknowledge the biggest threat to the world's biggest economy are the cranks and crazies that have taken over a part of the Republican party," Australian treasurer, Wayne Swan

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddhartha View Post
    Liberals want to give them a hand. Republicans give them the boot.
    More like libs want to give them a King size Sleep Number bed and send the bill to those of us still lucky enough to have a job in the Obama economy

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    Quote Originally Posted by siddhartha View Post
    Seems to me, you're the one doing the projecting. I've been rich. I've been poor.....and not poor as a little kid that doesn't know anything else.

    One who knows poverty should have more empathy. There are many things in life that are beyond our control, like a lousy family situation. Some can persevere all by themselves and they should certainly be commended. Others want to but need help. And we all know that there are those that are unemployable. That's a statistical constant.

    Turning you back on those that have the ability and desire is both morally wrong and counter productive.
    I will ask you - libs have spent ober $9 trillion in the last 40 plus years of trying to wipe poverty from America. they have come up with cradle to grave social programs that gobble up more and more of the budget

    Yet we are told poverty has never been worse

    What happened to all that money and what is the left's exit plan on their War on Poverty?

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    I agree I can't wrap my hand around this country is in such bad shape but I still see Iphone/Ipads/Macbooks all over the place. StarBucks full of people drinking 7 dollar coffee.


    Yeah, things are not great, but not great in America is awesome compared to some other places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mialily View Post
    I agree I can't wrap my hand around this country is in such bad shape but I still see Iphone/Ipads/Macbooks all over the place. StarBucks full of people drinking 7 dollar coffee.


    Yeah, things are not great, but not great in America is awesome compared to some other places.
    Many come here for a better life since they know with capitalism it is their best shot at accumlating personal wealth

    But others come here knowing that libs will give them the shirt off my back
    Last edited by red states rule; Feb 24 2012 at 02:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Many come here for a better life since they know with capitalism it is their best shot at accumlating personal wealth

    But others come here knowing that libs will give them the shirt off my back

    I agree. Although conservatives want to horde money in a bank account and not pay this country the money they owe for letting them accumulate that much wealth. It is loose loose or loose with politics in this country atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mialily View Post
    I agree. Although conservatives want to horde money in a bank account and not pay this country the money they owe for letting them accumulate that much wealth. It is loose loose or loose with politics in this country atm.
    What do mean "hord"?

    The IRS numbers show 1% of the taxpayers pay over 40% of the income taxes collected

    While more then 50% of the people pay ZERO income taxes and some get a
    "refund" on taxes they did n ot even pay

    Of course that "refund" is paid by the top 1% that the left loves to hate

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    What do mean "hord"?

    The IRS numbers show 1% of the taxpayers pay over 40% of the income taxes collected

    While more then 50% of the people pay ZERO income taxes and some get a
    "refund" on taxes they did n ot even pay

    Of course that "refund" is paid by the top 1% that the left loves to hate
    I mean when you can collect a personal fortune of 17.5 billion dollars in less then 10 years (Mark Zuckerberg) that is a bit much.

    I believe a you pay more for the more this country does for you.
    Any other country and Mark/Bill/Warren/Walton none of these people could have collected nearly as much money as they have in such a sort time.

    I'm not saying dead beats who don't want to work deserve their money, but are soldiers do, and they should see that they can help instead of trying to continue too horde more money and get richer, but actually try to fix the country that both sides of this have broken.


    The rich get the most out of this country.

    The poor get a free mediocre life out of this country.

    The middle man gets almost nothing but both sides want from them.
    The rich want us to buy their overpriced products so they can get richer.
    The poor want us to pay more taxes so they can live a life without working.

    The rich also get back any money they pay the middle in buying their products so its almost like we are a resource to both sides.


    Either way I'm getting screwed.
    Last edited by Mialily; Feb 24 2012 at 03:02 AM.

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