Endless Marxist, anti-male, anti-Western indoctrination from a young age
Traditional male roles are sexist; men need to adapt to a newer, gender neutral society
Male careers no longer involve brute strength, stamina or negotiating skills
The computer spawned generations of closeted, childish, impotent males
The ecstasy of being spoiled rotten from birth leads to many exuberant ‘alternative lifestyles’
There is no ongoing attack on masculinity and traditional male roles
This thread does make me kind of want to go watch Gran Torino. AWESOME MOVIE!!! If you never listen to me in terms of politics, fine -- but listen to me in terms of that movie. Watch it. Learn it. Live it.
There is this odd social phenomenon in America, ever since World War II basically, where every generation of men has seemed kind of gay to the generation right beforehand. But I think it's more because of the bad guys. 'Cause you've got THE GREATEST GENERATION, as Tom Brokaw put it (good book by the way), and they're like, "We fought the Nazis! We stormed the beaches at Normandy and we saved the world from an Orwellian nightmare of biblical proportion!" And then the next generation is like, "Well, we fought communist Chinese! Vast hordes of them!" And then the next generation is like, "Well, we fought an assortment of Asians, mostly in the southeast ... but it wasn't much fun and it was pretty miserable in the jungle and it went on way too long and nobody was quite sure what the point was." And then the next generation is all, "Well, we ... engaged in some covert things that we really shouldn't have for a while ... but I think we were actually fighting against democracy in a lot of places? How did that happen? I'm not even sure who were fighting. Just ... people, I think." And the current generation is now sort of, "Well ... we think there might be some bad guys ... sort of ... over there, somewhere ... probably in the middle of that crowd ... why are we bothering with this, again?"
Personally, I've always been a little perplexed by the idea that masculinity is defined primarily by the enthusiasm with which one embraces violence -- not their actual effectiveness at violence, mind you, but simply how eager they are to engage in it.
Some people that think that being manly is a matter of getting your way all the time, forcing your will on others, bringing not just order but your order to the world whether the world wants it or not. I disagree.
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You are saying such absurd things that a counter argument merely consists of stating the blatantly obvious like "The genders are biologically different both physically and psychologically."
Anyway, I'm just dying to know where you got the idea that marriage was not for the masses. Please, if you have a source I'd love to spend some time mocking it more thoroughly.
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Shakespeare said it long ago when he described the Right Wing political movement so very well -
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing."
I think it's a few things.
First off, business has changed a lot. In the days before feminism came to the fore in business, it was a rough and tumble men's world. It was not a place where you were expected to hide your masculinity. Business was tough, and if you weren't good at business, you lost. Now you can be good at business but lose because you put up a pin-up girl calender in the office.
Second, as traditional christianity and traditional western culture has come more and more under attack, the ideals of masculine and feminine became suspect as well. The ideal taught by the church was that men were the leaders, heads of the family, and worked for a living. As the stuffy bible was removed, those ideas became seen as limiting, wrong, and backwards.
thirdly, cutbacks in schools coupled with title 9 and fear of lawsuits have removed sports from schoolyards. This means that males no longer grow up learning to compete for what they want. Men who don't compete tend to lose at competitions and thus avoid it. Then they tend to think no one can compete because they can't and thus feel the need to try to rig the game to make it "fair" for everyone else.
What's weird to me is that both extremes seem to be coming out. One the one hand are the girly men, the ones the OP is talking about. But, there is the other extreme as well -- extreme sports and MMA and death defying stunts done by men of the same age. I think all i can say is that our boys have no idea what real manhood is.
its what happens to the men when they give the women voting rights and more privileges
that is why the muslim middle eastern men are not effeminate
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