View Poll Results: Why are Western Men so effeminate nowadays?

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  • Endless Marxist, anti-male, anti-Western indoctrination from a young age

    14 28.57%
  • Traditional male roles are sexist; men need to adapt to a newer, gender neutral society

    4 8.16%
  • Male careers no longer involve brute strength, stamina or negotiating skills

    4 8.16%
  • The computer spawned generations of closeted, childish, impotent males

    3 6.12%
  • The ecstasy of being spoiled rotten from birth leads to many exuberant ‘alternative lifestyles’

    6 12.24%
  • There is no ongoing attack on masculinity and traditional male roles

    8 16.33%
  • "Other"

    10 20.41%
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Thread: Why are Western Men so effeminate nowadays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Napier View Post
    You see, the question makes the assumption that Western men have become 'effemeniate'.
    Actually it's an obvious fact, not an assumption.

    How do we measure if that is true?
    Wrong question - one that a male of dubious masculinity could be expected to raise, I might add.

    I don't think it possible.
    We can't measure racism either, but that doesn't constrain anyone from "assuming" certain people are racists.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Napier View Post
    [W]here i come from, we see men that carry weapons as being weak.
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    "When I am weaker than you, I ask you for my freedom because that is according to your principles. When I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles."

    ~ Frank Herbert


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leffe View Post
    Except, due to all the evolution humans developed brains far superior to other spiecies, allowing us to mechanise manual tasks. meaning men no need to be "providers" as we provide with our brains nowadays.

    So basically, you are wrong.
    Humans haven't changed as much as you think they have. The fact that the western world no longer necessitates man as hunter/provider does not mean the biological drive toward that behavior is no longer there. Why do you think rich guys get so many women? On an unconscious level, they are demonstrating the ability to provide. And women are instinctually drawn to that. All that expensive cars, jewelry, and flashy accessories are is a social manifestation of the lower animal drive to demonstrate the ability to provide sufficiently for a mate and offspring.
    Last edited by Unifier; Mar 16 2012 at 05:35 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loong View Post
    I don't see differences. Just two humans.

    Why do the LIEberrhoidals have to LIE ?????
    I don't lie. Are two humans. Point. I am tired of the fascists, racists and machismo in this thread I abandon. You win.

    Why the fascists have to attack always the different? Why the fascists cannot have a little of tolerance?
    Last edited by kilgram; Mar 16 2012 at 05:47 PM.
    Property is theft. NO GODS, NO MASTERS. AGAINST ALL AUTHORITY. apt-get install anarchism
    Economic Left/Right: -9.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.87

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    I don't lie. Are two humans. Point. I am tired of the fascists, racists and machismo in this thread I abandon. You win.

    Why the fascists have to attack always the different? Why the fascists cannot have a little of tolerance?
    You don't even know what fascist means, state-worshiping Spaniard.
    The State has never been created by a "social contract"; it has always been born in conquest and exploitation.

    -Rothbard

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    holy shaite yguy posts here? aahahaha
    Last edited by quilquer; Mar 16 2012 at 05:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NetworkCitizen View Post
    You don't even know what fascist means, state-worshiping Spaniard.
    State-worshiping? LOL. The ones that worship the state are you nationalist and extreme right people.

    Fascist? I know perfectly what it means I am from a country that is living a fascist regime. Yes, Spain is a fascist country. Never changed, Franco made sure that the regime would continue after his death, and he made a face washing, nothing else. How I know so well what means fascist I know to identify them, and the ideas defended in this thread are exactly the same that defend the fascist parties like España-2000, Democracia Nacional(Nazi party), FE-JONS, Plataforma per Catalunya and the other fascist trash of Spain. Then yes, I know very well fascism. Check their ideology and compare it with what many defended and tell me if you are able to see differences because I cannot.

    I am anti-statist. But that you will never understand.
    Last edited by kilgram; Mar 16 2012 at 06:10 PM.
    Property is theft. NO GODS, NO MASTERS. AGAINST ALL AUTHORITY. apt-get install anarchism
    Economic Left/Right: -9.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.87

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    State-worshiping? LOL. The ones that worship the state are you nationalist and extreme right people.

    Fascist? I know perfectly what it means I am from a country that is living a fascist regime. Yes, Spain is a fascist country. Never changed, Franco made sure that the regime would continue after his death, and he made a face washing, nothing else. How I know so well what means fascist I know to identify them, and the ideas defended in this thread are exactly the same that defend the fascist parties like España-2000, Democracia Nacional(Nazi party), FE-JONS, Plataforma per Catalunya and the other fascist trash of Spain. Then yes, I know very well fascism. Check their ideology and compare it with what many defended and tell me if you are able to see differences because I cannot.

    I am anti-statist. But that you will never understand.

    I've seen your posts and you always side with the totalitarian, big government statists, therefore...you draw the conclusion.

    I'm also not a right winger, because a I'm a legit libertarian and know what the liberty movement has always been about. It's always been a movement against feudalism, gov't-corporate collusion. That's what we have in America.

    Focus on your own (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up nation that is being usurped by globalist bankers, perhaps.
    The State has never been created by a "social contract"; it has always been born in conquest and exploitation.

    -Rothbard

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    Quote Originally Posted by NetworkCitizen View Post
    I've seen your posts and you always side with the totalitarian, big government statists, therefore...you draw the conclusion.

    I'm also not a right winger, because a I'm a legit libertarian and know what the liberty movement has always been about. It's always been a movement against feudalism, gov't-corporate collusion. That's what we have in America.

    Focus on your own (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up nation that is being usurped by globalist bankers, perhaps.
    I am libertarian. And you've not seen a crap about my posts. And libertarians or how are known in the rest of the world neoliberals are right wing. However in theory they are less authoritarian are right wing. Right wing is individualist and procapitalist. And you are that, so right wing.

    The same with your nation. And I don't care a crap about my nation, I don't care anything about nations. For me how if the nation is destroyed. I only care for people.

    As I said I am libertarian or anarchist(maybe you should know that libertarian is a word that appeared to refer to the anarchism, the leftist anarchism like anarchocollectivism or anarchocommunism, and the liberals in USA from the 50s started to call themselves libertarian, and killed the original meaning of libertarian in USA). I want the abolition of all authoritarian institutions and it includes religion, state and capitalism. Capitalism is a system that foments mini-totalitarian institutions, each corporation where there is a boss is totalitarian.
    Last edited by kilgram; Mar 16 2012 at 06:25 PM.
    Property is theft. NO GODS, NO MASTERS. AGAINST ALL AUTHORITY. apt-get install anarchism
    Economic Left/Right: -9.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.87

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    I am libertarian. And you've not seen a crap about my posts. And libertarians or how are known in the rest of the world neoliberals are right wing. However in theory they are less authoritarian are right wing. Right wing is individualist and procapitalist. And you are that, so right wing.

    The same with your nation. And I don't care a crap about my nation, I don't care anything about nations. For me how if the nation is destroyed. I only care for people.

    As I said I am libertarian or anarchist(maybe you should know that libertarian is a word that appeared to refer to the anarchism, the leftist anarchism like anarchocollectivism or anarchocommunism, and the liberals in USA from the 50s started to call themselves libertarian, and killed the original meaning of libertarian in USA). I want the abolition of all authoritarian institutions and it includes religion, state and capitalism. Capitalism is a system that foments mini-totalitarian institutions, each corporation where there is a boss is totalitarian.
    You should translate this article into Spanish and understand where you really stand when it comes to the reality of the situation. Libertarian is left. Your movement just got flipped on its head with a bunch of garbage where you are trying to achieve liberty through conservative means.



    Thus, with Liberalism abandoned from within, there was no longer a party of Hope in the Western world, no longer a "Left" movement to lead a struggle against the State and against the unbreached remainder of the Old Order. Into this gap, into this void created by the drying up of radical liberalism, there stepped a new movement: Socialism. Libertarians of the present day are accustomed to think of socialism as the polar opposite of the libertarian creed. But this is a grave mistake, responsible for a severe ideological disorientation of libertarians in the present world. As we have seen, Conservatism was the polar opposite of liberty; and socialism, while to the "left" of conservatism, was essentially a confused, middle-of-the road movement. It was, and still is, middle-of-the road because it tries to achieve Liberal ends by the use of Conservative means.

    http://mises.org/daily/910
    Last edited by NetworkCitizen; Mar 16 2012 at 06:36 PM.
    The State has never been created by a "social contract"; it has always been born in conquest and exploitation.

    -Rothbard

    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by NetworkCitizen View Post
    You should translate this article into Spanish and understand where you really stand when it comes to the reality of the situation. Libertarian is left. Your movement just got flipped on its head with a bunch of garbage where you are trying to achieve liberty through conservative means.
    I am here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

    Anarchist. And mises talk about Marxism. I am not marxist. Or more specifically:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_anarchism

    And libertarian in all the world except USA(from the 50s, before was refered to the same thing) is refered to the ideology that I link above.

    And libertarians can be leftist or rightist. I am leftist libertarian you are rightist.
    Last edited by kilgram; Mar 16 2012 at 06:45 PM.
    Property is theft. NO GODS, NO MASTERS. AGAINST ALL AUTHORITY. apt-get install anarchism
    Economic Left/Right: -9.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.87

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