Thread: Zero Evidence that 9/11 Was an Inside Job

Good answer, fellas!

Originally Posted by darckriver

Ok - you challenged me. I'll take the plunge, just for the hell of it.

The Pentagon is called "The Pentagon" because of...? Right - it is an polygon containing five sides. You are the smart one! That means that there are 5 angled exterior walls where each adjacent pair forms an interior angle at each corner of...? Right again - 360/5 = 72 degrees. That means that the exterior wall angle at each of the 5 corners must be...? Yep - you got it! It must be 360-72=288 degrees WOW! I am impressed! That means that a security camera looking parallel along any one of the walls cannot "see" the vast majority of anything coming directly toward the adjacent wall, around that 288 degree angled corner! In other words, the plane came into the adjacent exterior wall to which the camera was looking - duhh.

Come on people - knock it off! This ain't kindergarten - or is it???

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What in the world does all that have to do with what is on the tape? What is approaching the building in the second video at 24 seconds is NOT an airliner. It is out in the open so what does all the analysis of the angles of the building have to do with it? What is key is that you see it approach the building and it's clearly no 757. The next thing you see is the explosion.

The first video shows the damage. It's not from a fully fueled 757. Plus, the hole isn't big enough for a 757. Now, that last bit wouldn't mean anything except that there was no debris outside the building. What happened to the wings? They sure didn't fold up and go in the building with the fuselage. They sure didn't penetrate the building so where's the debris? You won't find any video that shows airplane debris outside the Pentagon.

Originally Posted by NetworkCitizen

When there's a cover-up, there will be a lot of theories that come about, right? What are we left with other than theories?

C'mon, your kindergarten teacher lied to you.

9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: “It is a national scandal”; “This investigation is now compromised”; and “One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up”

You should not take anything Max Cleland says seriously.

He was appointed to the 9/11 Commission in 2002 just weeks after losing his Senate reelection bid that he was widely reported as being extremely bitter about and blamed the Bush Admin. for distorting his record and demonizing him.

Also, Cleland actually seemed to think he was "entitled" to his Senate seat due to being a military veteran and triple amputee.

Originally Posted by hoytmonger

Try using Google sometime, that's what I did...

http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0408c.asp

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtcbomb.html

Rare TV NEWS report about WTC bombing FBI Foreknowledge - YouTube

Ted Gunderson Former FBI Chief - Most Terror Attacks Are Committed By Our CIA And FBI - YouTube

I see that the FBI could have stopped the plot, but nowhere does it say that the FBI supplied the explosives.

I just don't believe that the FBI could be involved in something like 9/11 without that information leaking out to the mainstream media. They would be all over that if it was actually a credible claim.

Originally Posted by darckriver

There's "much evidence" also that the Pyramids and Sphinx were commissioned and built by "Ancient Aliens" and we performed secret autopsies on crashed ones at Roswell in the summer of 1947...

Here's something else there's "much evidence" for - we are surrounded by a significant number fukin morons. Unfortunately, that's an obvious fact rather than just another idiotic delusion. Now pass me that Weekly World News, please.

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What does any of this have to do with the government being directly involved in 9/11?

Originally Posted by NetworkCitizen

There's even more evidence that many people speak about events that they have never dedicated any significant amount of time to investigate.


What's Dr. Righteous' line in situations like this? I believe it goes "you have been brainwashed by right wing propaganda."

Yes that would be correct. I admit that I have not taken much time to investigate the debunking of 9/11 evidence...all I know is that none of it has been verified as being remotely credible.

Originally Posted by darckriver

Stupidity isn't necessarily limited by political persuasion. It's really just about the only bipartisan game going these days.

Don't misunderstand me, I am not a partisan. I just recognize the fact that there exists a right wing neo-conservative faction of the mainstream media.

Originally Posted by Dr. Righteous

I see that the FBI could have stopped the plot, but nowhere does it say that the FBI supplied the explosives.

I just don't believe that the FBI could be involved in something like 9/11 without that information leaking out to the mainstream media. They would be all over that if it was actually a credible claim.

Watch the last video of the former FBI Chief. Not only does he say the FBI supplied the bomb but that the FBI and CIA are responsible for many of the foreign "terror" attacks overseas against US targets.
It also states that the same FBI special agent supervising the 1993 attack was involved in the Kenyan bombing of the US embassy.
Don't forget that Kennedy was shot three times with one "magic" bullet.

Originally Posted by kenrichaed

There is no proof that it was an inside job. There are plenty of things that you can look at individually and say they don't fit or don't make sense but there is nothing you can take into court and prove a conspiracy.

I saw a tornado tear down a house once. The whole thing was gone except for one bathroom wall that had a shelf on it. On this shelf were little figurines that hadn't moved at all.

How is this possible, for little figurines to still be there while the whole house was ripped away? Doesn't make sense does it?

Does this prove that a tornado didn't actually hit the house? Does it say that maybe the owners planned this story of a tornado and secrectly demolished the rest of the house except for this one wall?

Science cannot explain how one wall and little figurines are still there. Its not possible so there must be a cover-up.

This is what the truthers want you to believe.

Look at Presidents record with keeping conspiracy's and its not very good.

Johnson with the Gulf of Tonkin and the Pentagon Papers.

Kennedy with the Bay of Pigs.

Eisenhower and the U-2s.

Nixon and Watergate.

Yet Bush, who is considered one of the dumbest people ever, supposedly is able to pull off the grandest of them all and not have a single person or piece of solid evidence come forward.

I find this doubtful. The sheer number of people that would be needed to pull this off makes it highly unlikely.

Now ask yourself what you would do. Suppose it was your task to design a false flag event that would allow Bush to pass the Patriot Act and invade Iraq. Is 9/11 the plan you would come up with. Something that involved so many people and required hundreds of things to go precisely right or else it fails?

Or would you find a simpler way such as setting off a dirty bomb in New York and blaming it on Al-Queida or something similar to that.

The extreme size of this event signifies to me that it was far too complicated to be designed by the government.

Exactly. The government has a (*)(*)(*)(*) poor record of botching up small scale coverups like Watergate from nosy journalists. I find it hard to believe that something on the scale of 9/11 could have been covered up for this long without somebody squawking.

The truthers, in their indiscriminate paranoia of government, seem to overlook the nature of government: inefficiency.

Originally Posted by hoytmonger

Watch the last video of the former FBI Chief. Not only does he say the FBI supplied the bomb but that the FBI and CIA are responsible for many of the foreign "terror" attacks overseas against US targets.
It also states that the same FBI special agent supervising the 1993 attack was involved in the Kenyan bombing of the US embassy.
Don't forget that Kennedy was shot three times with one "magic" bullet.

No he wasn't.

Kennedy was hit by two bullets.

That has been very well established by both the ballistics tests available in the 1960s and decades later.