From:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world...874191,00.html

"Up to 80 per cent of women in Pakistan's jails are charged under rules that penalise rape victims. But hardliners have vetoed an end to the Islamic laws." [EDITOR'S NOTE: THEY ARE *VICTIMS* OF RAPE AND *THEY* GO TO JAIL]

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"Women who report their rapists remain more likely to go to prison themselves than see justice, so most cases are never reported."

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"Their alarm is centred on enforcement of the 'Hudood ordinances', a complex set of Koranic laws....Similar sharia laws have existed in Saudi Arabia, Iran and Sudan for centuries, but Pakistan's were enacted by former President Zia ul-Haq only in 1979, as part of his radical attempt to 'Islamicise' the country."


If you didn't fall over in your chair after reading this article then, uh, you didn't read this article!

This article is far from being the only report on these atrocities. See MANY articles about this Islamic atrocity on Google:
http://www.google.com/m/search?uipre...dultery+lashes

What can we do to bring Islam into our modern world, and stop this savagery!?

People said the same thing about Christianity back in the Middle Ages. Islam has only existed since 700 AD; give it 700 more years, and if it hasn't changed into a religion of prosletyzing evangelicals who reject reality and still hold onto fantasy, bomb abortion clinics, penalize homosexuals if not outright have them killed, have terrorist groups like the KKK, then you can say Islam isn't going anywhere.

Then again, since when did religion's redeeming qualities overshadow its many milennia of murder, torture, war, and hate?

Double post; please delete this.

Here comes Neocon FreedomSeeker...exposing Pakistan.

But whoops... FreedomSeeker's master Bush has given Pakistan's government billions to maintain its legal systema and enforce these laws. Bush calls them allies.

Your position is irrational. You vote for those who support Pakistan, and then criticize Pakistan.

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Schopenhauer

Oceania is at war with Eastasia. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. Didn't you know that?

That's a valid observation (that we give them aid, despite their inhuman atrocities done in the name of Mohammad.)

If Islamic terrorists would stop "playing Islam", then we could stop giving money to Pakistan's gov't.

But since Mohammad urged Muslims to spread his self-agrandizing religion by the sword when needed, making Pakistan an ENEMY (you rightly mention they are currently an ally in the GWOT) would be unwise, no? If you think they should NOT be an ally, then please tell us how we kill the terrorists in Pakistan!


Islamic terrorism is the largely the fault of Mohammad, and the Imams/Mullahs, and not our fault. An example, from http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5345202.stm

"Al-Qaeda 'issues France threat'
Al-Qaeda's deputy leader has claimed that a radical Algerian Islamist group has joined al-Qaeda and is being urged to punish France, it has emerged. "

See, the terrorists want to establish a Caliphate, under horrific Islamic Sharia Law, from France/Spain (Spain used to be Islamic, and named 'Anadalus', and they want it back!) all the way east to at least Malaysia. Bush stands in their way more than any other single human being (in world history maybe??), so they despise him. Bush is no Dhimmi, thank goodness!

Google "Dhimmi" to see what horrors the terrorists have in store for us.

Are you denying Christianity spread by the sword?

I'm an atheist, and not a Christian.

Whether any other religion was or was not spread by the sword doesn't give Islam a pass for being clearly the most violent religion on the entire planet today. Two wrongs don't make a right, of course.

I wouldn't mind if ALL religion/superstition/mysticism/illogical/un-scientific thought was discredited. But Islam is the worst (death to people who leave the cult...come on, that should be renounced by all sane Muslims, today!)

FYI: "The List" of all the 10,000+ deadly Islamic terrorist attacks in the last 6 years alone can be found at www.TheReligionOfPeace.com

There are roughly 3 billion people on the planet who are not Christians (and not Muslims)...and more and more of them are waking up to the Teddy-Bear-Mohammad-means-a-thousand-Muslims-protest-to-have-her-head-cut-off reality that is Islam today...not just Christians.

Well, I'm a pantheist. Thanks for sharing your spiritual views with me.

I never said it did. In fact I wrote a long essay about a few hours ago in this very subforum concerning how Islam is "no better than Christianity"'s past.

Monotheistic religion has been discredited. We have science and we have evolutionary theory which forms the basis of discrediting fantasy, myth, and outright religious superstition. The fact no one really cares because the world is still in an extreme majority of creationism and fantasy and rejection of reality says that monotheism is so totalitarian it can employ doublethink to negate ANYTHING contradictory to scripture.

In my essay, I state that Islam "has politically corrected itself as a religion of peace".

NumberUnknown, thanks for your thorough (and quick) reply. Keep posting.