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Old 12-07-2007, 04:55 PM
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Well, Mitt Romney must be getting ready to drop out of the race for President. He has given the ‘Mormon Speech’. In it he told us little about the bizarre sect and just repeated a lot of what we already know.
The United States of America was founded partly to provide a haven for religious freedom. As a result this nation protects Jews, Catholics, Protestants, Bhuddists, Muslims, Agnostics, Atheists and people who believe in witches and small singing mushrooms who live in the woods.
The Mormon’s have gotten their twisted views in the national spotlight and that should, hopefully, keep them quiet for 15 years or so. Putting Mitt Romney in the White House, however, makes little sense. His campaign, like that of Barack Obama, seems to be a vehicle for undermining our nation, rather than strengthening it. Barack Obama, you see, has a large following of fringe Muslims – some of whom believe that spaceships are circling earth prepared to destroy white people and put black people in command of the earth.
The Mormon religion was founded by one Mr. Smith – who was about 15 years old and apparently suffering from epilepsy as he (according to a Mormon instruction book) fell down a lot and immediately thereafter seemed to have a vision.
The boy grew to a man and along the way became convinced that an angel named Moroni revealed to him a metal book that described how Jews had landed in Chili hundreds of years before the birth of Christ. They believe that these Jews built the cities of the Incan, Mayan and Aztec empires and were eventually exterminated by the rest of the Indians in what appears to be one of the first holocausts.
The angel Moroni was apparently the ghost of the son of the last leader of the Jews, known as Nephites.
To give you an idea of the sort of racism that is promoted by the Mormon religion one need only to note the description of Native American Indians given by the ‘Book of Mormon’.
“The Lamanites led a roving, aggressive life; kept few or no records, and soon lost the art of history writing. They lived on the results of the chase and by plunder, degenerating in habit until they became typical progenitors of the dark-skinned race, afterward discovered by Columbus and named American Indians.”
Smith claimed to find the book on a mountain in New York near his home in Vermont . Later on he and some of his followers claimed that John the Baptist came back to life or descended from heaven and came to the United States to baptize them.
There were many reasons that the Mormons were driven west into the desert – among them were racism, marrying more than one woman and slavery.
Romney’s speech boiled down to, “I believe in my Mormon faith and I endeavor to live by it.”
Well that’s all well and good but do you want him to live by his faith while he is supposed to be working for you?
Spaceships filled with Black Panthers and Jews in Chile – you can’t say we don’t have a lively Presidential contest brewing up this time.
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:27 PM
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Well, Mitt Romney must be getting ready to drop out of the race for President. He has given the ‘Mormon Speech’. In it he told us little about the bizarre sect and just repeated a lot of what we already know.
The United States of America was founded partly to provide a haven for religious freedom. As a result this nation protects Jews, Catholics, Protestants, Bhuddists, Muslims, Agnostics, Atheists and people who believe in witches and small singing mushrooms who live in the woods.
The Mormon’s have gotten their twisted views in the national spotlight and that should, hopefully, keep them quiet for 15 years or so. Putting Mitt Romney in the White House, however, makes little sense. His campaign, like that of Barack Obama, seems to be a vehicle for undermining our nation, rather than strengthening it. Barack Obama, you see, has a large following of fringe Muslims – some of whom believe that spaceships are circling earth prepared to destroy white people and put black people in command of the earth.
The Mormon religion was founded by one Mr. Smith – who was about 15 years old and apparently suffering from epilepsy as he (according to a Mormon instruction book) fell down a lot and immediately thereafter seemed to have a vision.
The boy grew to a man and along the way became convinced that an angel named Moroni revealed to him a metal book that described how Jews had landed in Chili hundreds of years before the birth of Christ. They believe that these Jews built the cities of the Incan, Mayan and Aztec empires and were eventually exterminated by the rest of the Indians in what appears to be one of the first holocausts.
The angel Moroni was apparently the ghost of the son of the last leader of the Jews, known as Nephites.
To give you an idea of the sort of racism that is promoted by the Mormon religion one need only to note the description of Native American Indians given by the ‘Book of Mormon’.
“The Lamanites led a roving, aggressive life; kept few or no records, and soon lost the art of history writing. They lived on the results of the chase and by plunder, degenerating in habit until they became typical progenitors of the dark-skinned race, afterward discovered by Columbus and named American Indians.”
Smith claimed to find the book on a mountain in New York near his home in Vermont . Later on he and some of his followers claimed that John the Baptist came back to life or descended from heaven and came to the United States to baptize them.
There were many reasons that the Mormons were driven west into the desert – among them were racism, marrying more than one woman and slavery.
Romney’s speech boiled down to, “I believe in my Mormon faith and I endeavor to live by it.”
Well that’s all well and good but do you want him to live by his faith while he is supposed to be working for you?
Spaceships filled with Black Panthers and Jews in Chile – you can’t say we don’t have a lively Presidential contest brewing up this time.
Yes, that seems to be what I've read about the Mormon religion as I'm not a Mormon. They have gotten away from a lot of that though. They don't talk too much about Joseph Smith much anymore.

In fairness, there is a lot of weirdness in all of the world's religions. For example the Republican evangelicals believe in Intelligent Design and that the earth is only 5,000 years old, in the face of overwhelming geological evidence. I think that's what Dubya believes.

Romney obviously has good family values, is very intelligent, honest and in my opinion would make a great President. I'm going to vote for him.
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I've noticed a lot of lessons being shown on cable T.V> about Mormonism. Quite a coinsidence I'd say.
I'm a Christian and have had discussions wirh Mormons. They believe in the Bible in as far as it is tranlated correctly. They tend to belive that it has become corrupted by man over the years so a "new" addition had to be made.
I also understand that we were once in Heaven and had to come to Earth to "get" a body and learn our lessons, get experience then we can go back.
I don't know what to think of them. My Mormom neighbors are nice and don't press. Sadly I think they are just a little off in their concept of what God wnats with us, why he creaed us and just how ressurection works.
Mitt is not a bad guy and his religion is not a major issue with me, I just don't care for his ideas as much as I do Huckabees, McCains, Hunter or Thompson.
If it comes down to him or Hillary, Obama or Edwards, Mitt will have my vote. Thes rest are just too "socialistically" oriented for me.
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Doesn't drink, doesn't smoke (as required for being a Mormon) and has only one wife, and treats her with respect. Who wouldn't want that out of a leader?

I'd vote for him if I really had to, but it depends on who runs against him. Bill Richardson? Then I can't vote for Romney.

But we'll see.
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These are the core beliefs of the Mormon church.

http://www.lds.org/library/display/0...-1-2-1,FF.html

There has been a whole lot of half truths and innuendo about the Mormon church being spread around because of the Romney campaign.

I think I'd support a man with such beliefs over someone who believed in Biblical literalism, for example, that the Earth is only 6,000 years old and that Noah's flood was an actual, historical, event.

Not that religious beliefs should be an important part of choosing a president anyway.

Mormons also believe that the Constitution was divinely inspired, not that it is just a piece of paper. That's a plus.
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My main problem with Romney is that he wholly supports and defends the expansion of presidential power and authority. Isn't he the only Republican candidate who endorsed this view? (I'm not stating, but asking).

I wouldn't vote for someone who thinks the most powerful office on earth isn't powerful enough!
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I don't think I've heard of a presidential candidate thinking that the office of the U.S. President is not powerful enough. But leave it to Romney to think that way. Of all the people running, he's the only one I can picture thinking that.
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