Thread: Gays are better for the environment/planet than straights

Originally Posted by Patriot911

How ironic that someone with the name FreedomSeeker would be so hell bent on forcing people to believe what he believes and do what he says.

I challenge you to show me where I've said to force people to believe the way I do. I don't. You're simply wrong.
I believe in freedom way way more than the authoritarian king-loving Bible does, or the theocratic-leaning Qur'an do.

Patriot911, will Jesus supposedly return and, uh, "run for office", or will he supposedly appoint himself king? Bad example, but it shows how the Christian texts are totalitarian, and don't believe in people enough to advocate democracy....unless of course the Christian god just didn't know about democracy at all (in which case he's not really "god", obviously)....

Does the Bible mention democracy more, or totalitarianism more? Please enlighten us.

Originally Posted by kenrichaed

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

You know, technically, we just might AGREE on something!

Originally Posted by FreedomSeeker

I challenge you to show me where I've said to force people to believe the way I do. I don't. You're simply wrong.
I believe in freedom way way more than the authoritarian king-loving Bible does, or the theocratic-leaning Qur'an do.

Patriot911, will Jesus supposedly return and, uh, "run for office", or will he supposedly appoint himself king? Bad example, but it shows how the Christian texts are totalitarian, and don't believe in people enough to advocate democracy....unless of course the Christian god just didn't know about democracy at all (in which case he's not really "god", obviously)....

Does the Bible mention democracy more, or totalitarianism more? Please enlighten us.

With rather ironic hate speech such as this:

Originally Posted by FreedomSeeker

The Bible/Quran/Torah/Hindu texts teach hatred. If we can remove the underlying cause of that hatred....

You don't need to prove anything to me. I've seen religious zealots like you all the time. You demonize what you hate through stereotypes and then try to pretend your way is so much better. To be honest, you may be too blinded by your own hate to see what it is you are doing. Some day maybe it will hit you that you are the very thing you rail against.

Originally Posted by kenrichaed

My great grandchildren will be fine. The earth can support so many more people we can't even comprehend it. We also have not even colonized the oceans yet which is more than possible.

We have the ability to build islands or an entire continent if we need too. We also can and will be able to feed everyone. We have the ability to farm fish and livestock at levels far far beyond what we currently do. We could block off parts of the ocean and grow and raise nothing but seafood to feed 5 earth populations.

Your also forgetting a very basic fact about nature. It tends to regulate itself quite well. If there ever was an over-population issue either disease or some other event would spawn to bring the numbers back into line. Religion has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

I HOPE you are right, but I fear not.

I'm not expert, but you might check into sources such as overpopulation.org
They claim:
"Overpopulation is a serious problem getting worse every year: if we continue at the current rate, population could reach as many as 15 billion by 2100 (unless the number is cut by starvation). Overpopulation is the root of most, if not all, environmental and many economic issues: peak oil, timber overharvesting, loss of arable land, ocean depletion, food shortages, water shortages, air pollution, water pollution, flooding, plant and animal habitat loss, global warming, and unsustainable debt-based economies."

Wow, it is amazing that a site like overpopulation.org is speaking against overpopulation.

Who wud of thunk?

Originally Posted by FreedomSeeker

The Bible/Quran/Torah/Hindu texts teach hatred. If we can remove the underlying cause of that hatred....

Patriot911, yes, you are right, I suppose I can see how that could be taken as being open to FORCING people to convert, but I assure you it's not.
Re-write:
If we can [get people to voluntarily] remove the underlying cause of that hatred...

Originally Posted by A Common Anomaly

Wow, it is amazing that a site like overpopulation.org is speaking against overpopulation.

Who wud of thunk?

They are COMPLETELY unbiased....and, oh, now that I think about it I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you, at a pretty fair price.

Originally Posted by FreedomSeeker

They are COMPLETELY unbiased....and, oh, now that I think about it I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you, at a pretty fair price.

What do they say about gay people being better for the environment or is that just your bias?

I am still waiting for the passages in the Tanakh and Bible that call for the slaughtering gays. (Mind you, I am an atheist, but I think you are full (*)(*)(*)(*)).

Originally Posted by A Common Anomaly

What do they say about gay people being better for the environment or is that just your bias?

I am still waiting for the passages in the Tanakh and Bible that call for the slaughtering gays. (Mind you, I am an atheist, but I think you are full (*)(*)(*)(*)).

Keeping family size lower than religions tend to imply/encourage, is good for the environment, there's no doubt abut that. Not just my bias.

You are right, I am full of ****, so I'm heading to the rest room right now.

Ok, I'm back.

וְאֶת-זָכָר—לֹא תִשְׁכַּב, מִשְׁכְּבֵי אִשָּׁה: תּוֹעֵבָה, הִוא.

Lev.18,22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind; it is abomination.

וְאִישׁ, אֲשֶׁר יִשְׁכַּב אֶת-זָכָר מִשְׁכְּבֵי אִשָּׁה—תּוֹעֵבָה עָשׂוּ, שְׁנֵיהֶם; מוֹת יוּמָתוּ, דְּמֵיהֶם בָּם.

Lev.20,13 And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.