I love how not a single conservative responded to my point that Planned Parenthood's abortion revenues makes up barely 15% of their total revenue.
Guess facts are bad for those kinds of beliefs, huh?
Is that what y'all call the Bible nowadays?You mean the fairy tales of the atheocrats?
How? And please provide unbiased, peer-reviewed evidence.Take a close look at the propaganda attendant to Harvey Milk Day. Here are some facts which are covered up: the gay lifestyle is extremely dangerous.
Insofar as they kill themselves because of the torment they face by people who simply perceive them as gay...Celebrating this lifestyle means shortening the lives of not a few confused men.
The average age of consent in the US is 16. That said, in California the age of consent was 18 and the law was rather strict. The issue here is national legal perception. Since the average age of consent in the US is 16, Harvey's relationship with the 16-year-old was likely ignored.Harvey Milk had sex with a child.
But do you know what he said to his volunteers about Jim Jones's Peoples Temple?Milk was closely allied to Jim Jones.
"Make sure you're always nice to the Peoples Temple. If they ask you to do something, do it, and then send them a note thanking them for asking you to do it. They're weird and they're dangerous, and you never want to be on their bad side." (Source... Page 139)
Religious liberty? Are you telling me that "religious liberty" means you have the right to bully homosexuals into committing suicide? Does it mean you have the right to blame rape victims? Does it mean you have the right to tell atheists that we're committing treason because we're atheists? Does that mean you get tell public school science classrooms that they have to teach Creationism (which, BTW, is a violation of the separation of Church and State, an ideal ratified unanimously by the federal government in the Treaty of Tripoli)? Does it mean praying over a child dying from cancer in place of the actual treatment given by doctors, even if it means the child dies in the process?Because he stands up for religious freedom despite the non-stop attacks from the corporate media? Why this childish name-calling attacking someone who stands up for religious liberty?
Because if that's what you mean by "religious liberty", then you don't deserve Religious liberty.
I provided evidence here.Evidence? You know PP is the nation's largest abortion mill.
Apologies. I worded that incorrectly. It is true, they do not provide mammograms and other such screenings directly. But they do refer patients to clinics, and pay for the services, so the person who needs it doesn't have to:What?! Killing an unborn baby is hardly a necessary service.
quote: A series of new undercover phone calls reveals that contrary to the claims of Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards and other supporters of the nation’s largest abortion chain, the organization does not provide mammograms for women.
I really don't understand the point of this statement.Atheists often seem to like to replace God with their own ego, this doesn't make them any less atheist.
And mistreatment is best taken care of by making it illegal? That would just make it worse, since making abortion illegal would not actually stop abortions.More than just a couple! Looks like you to want to cover up the mistreatment of women by the abortion industry.
Has marijuana prohibition stopped marijuana use? Has prostitution prohibition stopped prostitution? Did alcohol prohibition stop alcohol use?
No. Prohibition makes things worse, not better.
I guess you feel the same way.I guess all sources that disagree with you can't be trusted.
You really are naive, aren't you? When has prohibition ever worked?Of course it would and many unborn babies would be saved.
I want evidence that it's the entire industry. I want to see proof that this is an industry-wide conspiracy to hurt and kill women. I don't want isolated incidents. I don't want anecdotes. I want numbers. I want statistics. And I want the evidence for those statistics.As we've seen the abortion industry is only too happy to chew women up for profit.
Abstinence-Only a Failure, Research Shows
Oh... and it's two years more recent.
Right. Because like God, abstinence-only education just can't lose... not when you've invested everything into it...If true could be due to about a hundred other variables.
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"No trees were killed to send this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced."
~Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson
38.4% of Planned Parenthood’s 2009 “Health Center Income” is from Abortion
Sure. Here's some numbers from the CDC: post #46How? And please provide unbiased, peer-reviewed evidence.
The suicide rate for homosexual men is high even in the most gay-friendly societies.Insofar as they kill themselves because of the torment they face by people who simply perceive them as gay...
Gay Men Differ From Heterosexuals In Suicidality: Netherlands Study
quote: This study suggests that even in a country with a comparatively tolerant climate regarding homosexuality, homosexual men were at much higher risk for suicidality than heterosexual men.
Not very inspiring.But do you know what he said to his volunteers about Jim Jones's Peoples Temple?
"Make sure you're always nice to the Peoples Temple.
I am as opposed to bullying as anyone.Religious liberty? Are you telling me that "religious liberty" means you have the right to bully homosexuals into committing suicide?
I'm sure you'll agree that noted anti-science celebutard (and atheist) Bill Maher is far more dangerous: Bill Maher gets the Richard Dawkins Award? That's like Jenny McCarthy getting an award for public healthDoes it mean praying over a child dying from cancer
His anti-vaccine idiocy endangers many children's lives.
You claimed: "Planned Parenthood, whose abortion services take up 3% of all their services," I asked for evidence which you failed to supply. Please admit your error.I provided evidence
I appreciate your honesty.Apologies. I worded that incorrectly. It is true, they do not provide mammograms and other such screenings directly.
By this logic we should make everything legal: rape, cocaine abuse, etc.And mistreatment is best taken care of by making it illegal? That would just make it worse,
Prohibition certainly limits the harm: German's legalized prostitution brought more exploitation than emancipation to womenHas prostitution prohibition stopped prostitution?
What's naive is trusting the abortion industry to put profit over women and children's lives.You really are naive, aren't you?
Why does it have to be a conspiracy? Looks like no amount of evidence will sway you. You seem to think the abortion industry is staffed entirely by angels who are indifferent to anything as sordid as money.I want evidence that it's the entire industry. I want to see proof that this is an industry-wide conspiracy to hurt and kill women.
quote: Moreover, within the past 18 months, state officials in at least 14 states launched investigations into the abortion industry, resulting in criminal charges against a number of abortion providers, the closing of clinics, fines and other punitive action.
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Astonishing that anyone wants to force gay activist propaganda on young children.
Should Harvey Milk be reverenced by our children? He was a big fan of Jim Jones.
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The alter net article is farther to the left than I believe but yes America is in danger of becoming a theocracy. But telling religious fundamentalists that they have no right to enforce their beliefs on everyone doesn't work. Logic is not something most of these people posess. After all they do things like burn Harry potter books and condemn secular music for having "subliminal messages" telling kids to smoke pot.