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Thread: Where would your "anti establishment" candidates be without publicity of establishmen

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    Default Where would your "anti establishment" candidates be without publicity of establishmen

    Where would your Hussein Obama, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum all be without the publicity of the establishment media? because they all claim that they are not part of the establishment. describe to me their popularity now as you imagine it, if it was not for all the publicity they received after being screened to ensure that they serve special interests before the people first. even though they all made 20 times more money then the average American, they all talk about how they care about the middle class, just because they know that's what most voters are - the middle class.

    Anyway, I think I come to realize that hardly anyone in America likes these left/right hypocrites, it's mostly that you hate the OTHER hypocrite - that's why most threads are about INSULTING the candidates (and rightfully so), not defending them. but if you are defending any of them, then you ARE obligated to answer this question (title of the thread) or to admit that you are PRO establishment, because just like with communists, or Syrian leadership who are sponsored by state media, so are these criminals on television...


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    Quote Originally Posted by peoplevsmedia View Post
    Where would your Hussein Obama, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum all be without the publicity of the establishment media? because they all claim that they are not part of the establishment. describe to me their popularity now as you imagine it, if it was not for all the publicity they received after being screened to ensure that they serve special interests before the people first. even though they all made 20 times more money then the average American, they all talk about how they care about the middle class, just because they know that's what most voters are - the middle class.

    Anyway, I think I come to realize that hardly anyone in America likes these left/right hypocrites, it's mostly that you hate the OTHER hypocrite - that's why most threads are about INSULTING the candidates (and rightfully so), not defending them. but if you are defending any of them, then you ARE obligated to answer this question (title of the thread) or to admit that you are PRO establishment, because just like with communists, or Syrian leadership who are sponsored by state media, so are these criminals on television...
    That is not the establishment they are talking about. You're not a brain surgeon I hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peoplevsmedia View Post
    Where would your Hussein Obama, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum all be without the publicity of the establishment media?
    You make a good point. When politicians blather on about the "grassroots" and "fighting for the people" they are invariably lying.

    Obama is the candidate most favored by the establishment.

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    Romney is second. Santorum is constantly attacked by the corporate media. Ron Paul is almost always ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peoplevsmedia View Post
    Where would your Hussein Obama, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum all be without the publicity of the establishment media? because they all claim that they are not part of the establishment. describe to me their popularity now as you imagine it, if it was not for all the publicity they received after being screened to ensure that they serve special interests before the people first. even though they all made 20 times more money then the average American, they all talk about how they care about the middle class, just because they know that's what most voters are - the middle class.

    Anyway, I think I come to realize that hardly anyone in America likes these left/right hypocrites, it's mostly that you hate the OTHER hypocrite - that's why most threads are about INSULTING the candidates (and rightfully so), not defending them. but if you are defending any of them, then you ARE obligated to answer this question (title of the thread) or to admit that you are PRO establishment, because just like with communists, or Syrian leadership who are sponsored by state media, so are these criminals on television...
    Ron Paul is easy to defend. Too easy. Of course the establishment media does everything in their power to prevent people from thinking about him...or to think about him in a negative manner.
    Last edited by Dr. Righteous; Mar 15 2012 at 07:16 AM.

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    Wow is the OP stupid. Let me help: They are talking about the Washington establishment, not the media establishment. They are totally full of crap (except Paul), but that is what they mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anansi the Spider View Post
    Santorum is constantly attacked by the corporate media.
    Candidates that are a threat to the establishment only have to be ignored - attacking them only draws attention to them, and given most viewers do not trust the media, attacking someone is best publicity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Righteous View Post
    Ron Paul is easy to defend. Too easy. Of course the establishment media does everything in their power to prevent people from thinking about him...or to think about him in a negative manner.
    I will be very upfront about Ron Paul: everything he says I agree with and he is not a hypocrite. however, I believe the only reason Ron Paul is allowed on that circus is because of his age and softness. what the establishment gets out of having him there is they get to control the opposition by leading it - it is easier to suppress us on their stage where they get to pick and choose who enters the hall and who controls the mixing board and the sample box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peoplevsmedia View Post
    I will be very upfront about Ron Paul: everything he says I agree with and he is not a hypocrite. however, I believe the only reason Ron Paul is allowed on that circus is because of his age and softness. what the establishment gets out of having him there is they get to control the opposition by leading it - it is easier to suppress us on their stage where they get to pick and choose who enters the hall and who controls the mixing board and the sample box.
    I agree that is certainly a part of it. The establishment will try its hardest to hijack the movement and turn it into a Collectivist movement, exactly like they did with the Tea Party. Unfortunately for the establishment, Ron Paul's support base is far more organized and informed than the Tea Party. The Tea Party was disorganized and didn't have a clear message and was filled with people from all over the spectrum of "conservatism". They will have a much more difficult time trying to hijack the movement because frankly, Ron Paul's supporters are on the average far more informed than the average Tea Partier or OWS'er.

    My point is that the establishment can try every trick in the book, but it won't work because too many of Ron Paul's suppoters are aware of the tricks perpetuated by the Collectivist scum that control the media.
    Last edited by Dr. Righteous; Mar 15 2012 at 08:05 AM.

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    Bet you didn't know that over Ron Paul's 30 years in the establishment he has had more press time than all the other candidates put together. If he hasn't gotten his message out by now he doesn't deserve to be President.

    Its funny watching people blaming the media for his poor showing in the polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenrichaed View Post
    Bet you didn't know that over Ron Paul's 30 years in the establishment he has had more press time than all the other candidates put together.
    I'm sure you'll have no problem providing a credible source to back up this baseless claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by kenrichaed View Post
    Its funny watching people blaming the media for his poor showing in the polls.
    You're obviously clueless if you're not in tune to how the media treats him. You've been programmed nicely.

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