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    Quote Originally Posted by tomfoo13ry View Post
    It would also make me "uneasy" to say the least, but if it were written into law then shouldn't we simply accept that and move on? A person must act lawfully and pay due respect to the laws of the land and not just be able to do as they please, and nor should they be able to, right? Wouldn't doing otherwise promote running kiddie prostitution rackets?

    Are my arguments valid?

    Not really.

    They are too black and white, and take no account of the many shades of grey.

    You are suggesting that if Muslims and Jews were being snatched by proven lying elites, who had manipulated and/or eroded civil rights, that we should meekly accept it and 'move on'. Well, you know what, I guess you could do that. Who knows how many ordinary Germans did that very thing. And they were from a civlised nation who had produced many a genius in many fields. But yes, you probably would find that for a mass who are mostly in slumber, if they were even aware of it happening at all, they would likely give it two secs head time, before 'moving on' to their latest porn site.

    We know this to be the case, because it is happening right now.

    People ARE indeed being snatched and literally kidnapped by Gov agents who act above the framework of law.

    And the mass, as I suggested, are sedated by their many distractions.

    Doesn't mean to say you fall in line, and become morally bankrupt, even if it puts you out of step with 'others'.

    If you feel it is ethically wrong, possibly illegal, and certainly a slap in the face for your constitution or legal framework, then at the very least, you have some sort of reason to find that unacceptable, and to find out more, and to pass on what you know to someone that doesn't know at all.

    It may be a small thing, but better than nothing.

    Jack
    "They [the Jews] care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment," he wrote in 1947.
    "Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political, neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the underdog. (Truman)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Napier View Post
    Not really.

    They are too black and white, and take no account of the many shades of grey.

    You are suggesting that if Muslims and Jews were being snatched by proven lying elites, who had manipulated and/or eroded civil rights, that we should meekly accept it and 'move on'. Well, you know what, I guess you could do that. Who knows how many ordinary Germans did that very thing. And they were from a civlised nation who had produced many a genius in many fields. But yes, you probably would find that for a mass who are mostly in slumber, if they were even aware of it happening at all, they would likely give it two secs head time, before 'moving on' to their latest porn site.

    We know this to be the case, because it is happening right now.

    People ARE indeed being snatched and literally kidnapped by Gov agents who act above the framework of law.

    And the mass, as I suggested, are sedated by their many distractions.

    Doesn't mean to say you fall in line, and become morally bankrupt, even if it puts you out of step with 'others'.

    If you feel it is ethically wrong, possibly illegal, and certainly a slap in the face for your constitution or legal framework, then at the very least, you have some sort of reason to find that unacceptable, and to find out more, and to pass on what you know to someone that doesn't know at all.

    It may be a small thing, but better than nothing.

    Jack


    I agree, the argument that something is the law and that someone should, therefore, just get over it is a fallacious argument and should never be used in serious conversation as it exemplifies laziness and a lack of critical thinking skills. It is essentially saying, "Um, well, sorry, but that's how it is," which is also a moronic statement to use to argue against someone's opposition to any particular law.

    I think you're starting to get it. Thank you for your time.
    Last edited by tomfoo13ry; Apr 15 2012 at 05:43 PM.
    As it turns out, the Donner Party wasn't actually a "party" at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomfoo13ry View Post
    I agree, the argument that something is the law and that someone should, therefore, just get over it is a fallacious argument and should never be used in serious conversation as it exemplifies laziness and a lack of critical thinking skills. It is essentially saying, "Um, well, sorry, but that's how it is," which is also a moronic statement to use to argue against someone's opposition to any particular law.

    I think you're starting to get it. Thank you for your time.
    Once more, you are mixing two different things, on two different threads.

    I have said that once already.

    It is off topic, and confusing for others to keep up.

    Do you think you could maybe stop?
    "They [the Jews] care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment," he wrote in 1947.
    "Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political, neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the underdog. (Truman)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Napier View Post
    Once more, you are mixing two different things, on two different threads.

    I have said that once already.

    It is off topic, and confusing for others to keep up.

    Do you think you could maybe stop?
    Sure, no problem. We both now agree that using the argument that "it's the law" against someone's opposition to a specific law is a fallacious argument and indicative of Simple-Simon thinking, so my point has been made. Please, carry on.
    As it turns out, the Donner Party wasn't actually a "party" at all.

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