Thread: A Stunning View of a Liberal America

Why has the dem party become a socialist/marxist organization???

Originally Posted by Trinnity

Why has the dem party become a socialist/marxist organization???

Only in comparison to the republicans, who have become the party of Dickensian capitalism.

At this point, favoring a government program that makes sure that women with infants and small children get enough milk is seen as Marxist socialism by republicans.

Originally Posted by Daybreaker

At this point, favoring a government program that makes sure that women with infants and small children get enough milk is seen as Marxist socialism by republicans.

In times like these, every single social program must be carefully scrutinized to ensure that it is peforming to maximum cost efficiency and isn't duplicative in its efforts.

If a mother has access to milk through other sources and these sources are readily and easily available, there is no need for such a program now is there?

Social Consequences are irrelevant. All that matters is fiscal efficiency.

Originally Posted by Daybreaker

That's not capitalism. Capitalism is where you make money by having money.

And how do you get money??? Other than the typical few and far between examples liberals always give (like Paris Hilton), most people have self created themselves. Was Steve Jobs handed apple? Bill Gates with Microsoft? Zuckerberg with facebook?

In order to make money in a capitalistic society you have to first SPEND money... or in layman's terms, invest.

Originally Posted by Daybreaker

How is that not the problem with capitalism?

The reason it is a problem is because that is a liberal view. We don't live a in a completely capitalistic society.

Originally Posted by SiliconMagician

In times like these, every single social program must be carefully scrutinized to ensure that it is peforming to maximum cost efficiency and isn't duplicative in its efforts.

If a mother has access to milk through other sources and these sources are readily and easily available, there is no need for such a program now is there?

Social Consequences are irrelevant. All that matters is fiscal efficiency.

The problem is, is that a lot of policies I see that are supposed to increase 'efficiency' usually mean they are just gutted for the funding. I don't think anyone will disagree that overlapping bureaucracies don't help anyone.

As for the OP and California - I thought the problem was that all major legislation had to go to a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing community committee or something of the sort, which meant any sort of law that would raise revenue via taxation or the like, was squashed, basically leaving Cali to be stuck in yesteryear. Or am I wrong?

Originally Posted by SiliconMagician

Joel Kotkin, a Democrat and voter for Jerry Brown explains what America's future looks like under leftist policies.



I just want to know WHY liberals like this class distribution so much? I mean really is this class distribution your vision of utopian America? No private sector growth, no private sector middle class. Just a giant closed loop of the 1% who fund a Government apparatus of middle class "workers" whose job is to redistribute funds to the welfare recipients.

What a sick society, a sick vision and a sick ideology. I hope it burns in hell along with every "progressive" who supports this view of society.

I think we all know that Cali system is garbage. I don't know why anyone would defend such nonsense. Being that it is the pinnacle of Democratic policy, I have no idea why anyone votes for Democrats other than to keep the Republicans from winning office. Of course short of that I have no idea why anyone would vote Republican, but so is our (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up system.

Cons keep complaining about income inequality yet are against any attempts to make the system more equitable such as by progressive taxation regime which forms the basis of sane economics. How they choose to ignore complete contradictions in their thinking never ceases to amaze me.

Originally Posted by Ronald0

Cons keep complaining about income inequality yet are against any attempts to make the system more equitable such as by progressive taxation regime which forms the basis of sane economics. How they choose to ignore complete contradictions in their thinking never ceases to amaze me.

Where are cons complaining about income equality? That is something that liberals complain about constantly. Cons believe in the free market, liberals do not.

Originally Posted by SiliconMagician

Yup, you are cut from different threads. He's an ambitious, competitive individual looking for tangible worldly rewards for his hard work and labor and a good American.

You are a traitor to America who rejects the Laisezz Faire society our Founding Father's founded in order to promote and live under the anti-american ideology known as Statist Socialism.

Funny coming from a non-American.