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Thread: Should Assisted suicide be legal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluespade View Post
    So now you're crying about somebody using logic to debunk your post?

    You're aware this is a debate forum, right?
    Nobody has debunked anything I've said. Your little rant was nothing more than a personal attack which I can shrug off as easily as a pimple on my ass.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kenrichaed View Post
    Nobody has debunked anything I've said. Your little rant was nothing more than a personal attack which I can shrug off as easily as a pimple on my ass.
    Oh, please do highlight where I personally attacked you.
    Last edited by Bluespade; May 03 2012 at 08:53 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluespade View Post


    Oh, please do highlight where I personally attacked you.
    Nope, out of respect for the original poster and the content of his thread I will not participate in your trying to derail it. If you'd like to discuss my opinion and how you disagree with then you are free to message me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daggdag View Post
    A cancer patient stuck in bed might not have the strength to do it themselves
    Hope anyone considering making that legal trusts their kids (or step kids), they could end up in a box way early cause the kids can't wait to cash in your stuff.
    "One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subdermal View Post
    Then they should have planned better.

    Assisted suicide is a sick pasttime. Someone who wants to die should have the balls to do it themselves, and the responsibility to understand why that is important.
    Compassionate conservatives!!
    If god is omnipotent and omnipresent, shouldn't we just let him deal with the gays? He seems more equiped to deal with his own business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CKW View Post
    Most people who have cancer have relatives that are mentally and physically exhausted. The Suicide of a person who is a burden would be an easy out for them and society.

    We shouldn't go there.
    Actually, the entire process is looked after by medical specialists and shrinks. Assisted suicide is not a relative taking out a gun, it's a legal medical process of checks and balances, re-checks and re-balances. It's looked after by people who are independent from the person, people who need to demonstrate each year that they have conducted themselves in alignment with the law.
    If god is omnipotent and omnipresent, shouldn't we just let him deal with the gays? He seems more equiped to deal with his own business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nunya D. View Post
    Assisted suicide has been legal in Oregon since 1994 and has been used over 400 times. There has been absolutely no problems that I am aware of. There is no "slippery slope" and no "coercion" based on how the process is conducted.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_...th_Dignity_Act
    The NL also has allowances for it. The process is rigerous and each death is reviewed by independent panels, the Dr's know they are open to prosecution each and every time they follow the PROCESS.

    Thus far, there have been no issues.
    If god is omnipotent and omnipresent, shouldn't we just let him deal with the gays? He seems more equiped to deal with his own business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awryly View Post
    There are only three issues involved:

    1. The opposition of a fanatical Catholic Church

    2. The practicalities of ensuring decisions to die are not coerced

    3. The ethical inhibitions of the official medical fraternity, many of whose members already unofficially assist suicide.
    All these issues have been resolved in the NL.
    If god is omnipotent and omnipresent, shouldn't we just let him deal with the gays? He seems more equiped to deal with his own business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenrichaed View Post
    This should be a decision between the individual and their God.
    Herein lies the problem.

    There is no god!
    If god is omnipotent and omnipresent, shouldn't we just let him deal with the gays? He seems more equiped to deal with his own business.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthana...he_Netherlands

    The law allows medical review board to suspend prosecution of doctors who performed euthanasia when each of the following conditions is fulfilled:
    1. the patient's suffering is unbearable with no prospect of improvement
    2. the patient's request for euthanasia must be voluntary and persist over time (the request cannot be granted when under the influence of others, psychological illness or drugs)
    3. the patient must be fully aware of his/her condition, prospects and options
    4. there must be consultation with at least one other independent doctor who needs to confirm the conditions mentioned above
    5. the death must be carried out in a medically appropriate fashion by the doctor or patient, in which case the doctor must be present
    6. the patient is at least 12 years old (patients between 12 and 16 years of age require the consent of their parents)


    The doctor must also report the cause of death to the municipal coroner in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Burial and Cremation Act. A regional review committee assesses whether a case of termination of life on request or assisted suicide complies with the due care criteria. Depending on its findings, the case will either be closed or, if the conditions are not met brought to the attention of the Public Prosecutor.
    If god is omnipotent and omnipresent, shouldn't we just let him deal with the gays? He seems more equiped to deal with his own business.

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