Thread: So do I understand Progressivism Correctly?

Originally Posted by OmegaEnigma

Oh gee, it's just breaking my heart! "Waa! Waa! I'm rich and I can't afford to pay taxes!"

If it's so easy to be poor, why not join them instead?

Why don't you stop being a heartless economic bigot?

Originally Posted by Diuretic

Taxing the rich is a good idea, why shouldn't they be taxed? Shouldn't they pay taxes like everyone else?

This isn't about taxes. This is about a delusion that all of the social safety programs of Social Democracy can be had only by taxing the rich.

Originally Posted by OmegaEnigma

Oh gee, it's just breaking my heart! "Waa! Waa! I'm rich and I can't afford to pay taxes!"

If it's so easy to be poor, why not join them instead?

LOL! Really...I'm super rich! I pay a lot of taxes! WAAA friggin' WAAAA...

Originally Posted by SiliconMagician

This isn't about taxes. This is about a delusion that all of the social safety programs of Social Democracy can be had only by taxing the rich.

No it isn't. It's a big, fat strawman and you're having problems keeping the stuffing in it. Social service programmes are produced from taxes. Taxes are paid by all (generally speaking) who have an income. Therefore the rich pay taxes (or they should at least) as do average wage earners. Clearly those programmes are not funded by taxing the rich, they're funded by taxing everyone.

Watch where you step there, straw's leaking out everywhere.

Jebus Christ @ the greedy, envious commies in this thread..... thinking they should have rights to another persons earnings, and begrudging and mocking them because they won't willingly hand it over to their parental replacement, Big Papa Fed.

I'm sickened by what government schools have done to this country.

Originally Posted by Diuretic

No it isn't. It's a big, fat strawman and you're having problems keeping the stuffing in it. Social service programmes are produced from taxes. Taxes are paid by all (generally speaking) who have an income. Therefore the rich pay taxes (or they should at least) as do average wage earners. Clearly those programmes are not funded by taxing the rich, they're funded by taxing everyone.

Watch where you step there, straw's leaking out everywhere.

But 50% of the nation pays no income tax. So that is an outright lie.

Social Security/Medicare taxes don't count.

Originally Posted by Diuretic

Watch where you step there, straw's leaking out everywhere.

I'm thinking the byproduct of a male bovine.

Originally Posted by SiliconMagician

Bull (*)(*)(*)(*)!

Ask the question: How are we supposed to pay for all these social programs?

and the answer ALWAYS is.. Tax the Rich.

So the working classes want the social safety net of Europe, but only expects "the rich"(top 25% of all households) to pay for it!

So please explain to me how we can have all these social programs and pay for them, and only tax the rich?

You're picking the wrong fight with the wrong person.

If you'd been paying attention I've said that taxes need to be raised on EVERYONE and spending needs to be cut, especially defense spending with those monies moved toward infrastructure so we can have the kind of transportation, energy, and communications systems that will make the choice to manufacture and produce in the US obvious.

Originally Posted by webrockk

Jebus Christ @ the greedy, envious commies in this thread..... thinking they should have rights to another persons earnings, and begrudging and mocking them because they won't willingly hand it over to their parental replacement, Big Papa Fed.

I'm sickened by what government schools have done to this country.

YOU should be.

Originally Posted by SiliconMagician

But 50% of the nation pays no income tax. So that is an outright lie.

Social Security/Medicare taxes don't count.

Uhhh yes they do.

Or

Then investment income doesn't count. In that case Willard paid a rate of approximately 0%.

You demand that we count medicare and social security as "entitlements" but we can't count the taxes people pay for them as taxes?

I'll go back to my original comment.

No, you don't understand.

Big surprise!