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If he had decided to run. Besides the two mentioned, I like JC Watts. I'm not sure why he left politics.
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By that I mean maybe JC had way too much of both. 
Actually JC is a great example of the racial progression we have made. He was a black man who won in a congressional district that did not have anything near a black majority of voters. Whites from an area that most people would discribe as redneck voted this black man into office because they trusted him to represent their interests in Washington. I doubt they would have voted for Jesse or Al Sharpton, but they did vote for a black man who shared their views. How many people think they would have done that 40 years ago?
I know I have said this before, but guys like JC convince me that black America could gain so much more if it quite being so easy for the Democrats to count upon for support. If more African Americans put themselves into play politically speaking, then they would get so much more out of the system. |
Oh come on. Please don't call people in Oklahoma "rednecks." That's stereotyping at it's worst. I have family there....have lived there myself, and my husband graduated from Oklahoma University. They are NOT "rednecks."
Here's the deal: J.C. Watts was a star quarterback at the University of Oklahoma. Football is "king" there. He was a hero. And people liked him and knew that he was a good guy. That's why whites voted for him. |
I said, "Whites from an area that most people would discribe as redneck voted this black man into office because they trusted him to represent their interests in Washington"
Then you said, "Please don't call people in Oklahoma "rednecks." That's stereotyping at it's worst"
I did not call people in Oklahoma rednecks. I ackowledged a commonly held stereo type. There is a difference that is easy to see when you read carefully before you comment.
For the record, I was raised in Texas, have family in Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Arkansas & Mississippi & I now live in Louisiana. I am in the very heart of the region you are defending against a comment I did not make. I know this region well, because I live here.
Although I did not say the people of Oklahoma were rednecks before, I am saying it now. Not all residents in the states I mentioned are rednecks, but its a much higher concentration than the national average. Heck, a lot of my family and friends fall into this category and none of us view it as a negative comment.
I know a lot of people in this region who do have gunracks in their trucks. They have bumperstickers about prying the gun from their cold dead hands. They think Hank Williams Jr is a god. They can talk about watching the country & western TV show "Hee-Haw". They like to hunt & fish. They like bass fishing shows. The would describe themselves as good ole boys. Heck, most of them would describe themselves as a redneck and say it with pride. Maybe this is not the definition of redneck to you, but it is to me and it is to most of the people I just described.
Now to the comment I made about white's feeling JC advocated their interests, of course the fact that he played football for OU helps a lot with initial name recognition. Do you think he is the first politican to capitalize off of a successful stint in sports? This in no way invalidates his support of policies these same people believe in. It only means that his sports career gave him some good PR in the beginning.
You're reaching a bit here to take offense to the mention of the word redneck that you took out of context and to act like JC's football career is the only reason he was voted to office. Its hard for me to believe you could consistently misunderstand my posts this often. Whats up? |
Because you are a very hard to understand poster, DanM. Just like your comment above ......"Although I did not say the people of Oklahoma were rednecks before, I am saying it now." That sounds a bit like John Kerry's, "I did vote for the $87 million before I voted against it" comment. You're BOTH hard to understand. Sorry....but I don't have trouble with anybody else's logic on this board, but yours. |
No one else misunderstands me like you do & your mistakes are always in support of your prejudices and biases. Really convenient. I think its a lot more likely that you do not read carefully and just look for reasons to go off on an emotional rant. If the facts are a square peg and your thoughts are a round hole, you will beat the peg into the hole regardless of how many names you have to call someone or how often you have to misrepresent what they say to accomplish it.
Even guys I disagree with on the issues like Spork, Dem and DBG get the point of my posts. They are more liberal than you or me, but they read carefully, make thoughtful responses and do not get so emotional. Even though we do not see many of the issues the same way, I enjoy the interaction and value their responses. With you, however, I have someone who is closer to my views, but very unpleasant to deal with. You break everything here down to a personal level and that can get so freakin boring.
Also the Kerry comparison goes back to your favorite tactic of name calling instead of answering the question. You repeatedly call me names when you get frustrated and this is a classic reaction of a person with no ideas.
I doubt any of this will sink through to you, but I gotta keep trying.
07-19-2004, 05:47 AM
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