Thread: No Reason Not To Have Female Priests.

Originally Posted by Jack Napier

I agree that it was (and is)a handy means to control people, but on top of that, I think it was also a crude attempt at filling gaps in knowledge.

For instance, the idea that the Earth is 6000 yrs old is utterly absurd to any rational person that faces facts and evidence.

To be fair, back then they would have had no means to measure the age of the earth, so they likely had a punt, and were about 4 billion years out.

You see - someone probably asked, and being that the early day religionists were delclaring that 'god' had all the answers, they took a guess, a wild one, probably thinking that people would never find out, one way or the other. And they were right. People of that day did not find out. Like I said, no means to do so. Since we have had the means to do so, we now know that the earth to be much older than their guess. We can evidence this.

Then we have this..


To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin.

— Cardinal Robert Bellarmine (1542-1621) Church Doctor and Inquisitor who, on biblical grounds, vehemently opposed the Copernican Theory and other forms of scientific scholarship


You know all those 'intelligent design' freaks that try to pass off pseudo science, as real science?

Shamefully, may I add, since they are simply misinforming their kids, and calling that education!

They fear real science.

And probably all those that have a £ on religion, they fear science too.

Organised religion has a long history of being anti science.

The reason?

Same as the age of the earth, as science discovers more things, they have to amend their original claim, or forget it altogether.

Jack

I agree in full.

Originally Posted by RiseAgainst

Indeed you are correct sir.

But first, he has a great spiritual war he has to wage against all Catholics and other religious and non-religious folks alike who will stand up for their freedoms. I'm curious on the specific logistics of this operation.

You truly sound like a hate preacher.

Did you not read what I said about Catholic people, a few pages back?

Either you missed it, or you decided not to bother, as it would not fit with your crazy conclusions.

Originally Posted by Philly Rabbit

Female priests will turn the Catholic mass into a homosexual act.
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What??????????????

Originally Posted by fifthofnovember

It doesn't matter, really. The bible says what it says.

Well, no, I think it does rather matter, to make the distinction between something being

A) The word of several men, spanning differernt periods, from a culture and time that would seem alien to us today.

B) The word of an invisible entity called generically 'god'.

That said, you are right, the OT for example, it says what it says.

No denial there.

And what it says could only come from an evil and unstable mind(s)

Originally Posted by Jack Napier

Nope, look, see, all very clear


Exodus 33:11

The LORD would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent

Interesting... I like your theory....

Originally Posted by kenrichaed

Inspired by God however. If you have a Supreme Being that can create the Earth and Heavens do you really think he is gonna sit back and say, "Gosh I hope those humans can tell my story accurately and don't mess it up?"

Everything in the Bible is the way God wanted it. That's one of the benefits of being a God, everything works out exactly how you've planned it.

There are too many contradictions to suggest that it is in fact the infallible word of god.

Originally Posted by Unifier

Dude, you're better than this. You're a reasonable guy. And this is a troll post right here. Plus, it's counterproductive. You've just implied that the only people who molest kids are gays and lesbians.

Well, I was more specifically implying that clergy do it, but you're right that I went overboard.

Originally Posted by fifthofnovember

The killing of people for minor offenses really went out with the old covenant.

So the word of god in the OT was flawed?

According to your own rationale.

If it were not flawed, then you and it's followers would follow every word of it to the letter. And there would have been no need for a 'new covenant', could he not have just gotten it right, first off?

After all....it is god's word, and god's word can never be flawed, even if it looks more like something satan would do, right?

And who decided these trangressions were minor enough for people to stop killing others because of them?

Hey, if they were the activities and commands of the OT god, then you cannot duck out by saying 'Okay, forget the genocide, slavery and infanticide, um....he's not into that now, and look, here is Jesus, his son, who he is going to knowingly give up for human sacrifice, because god is stable now'.

If gods exist, then there are likely more than one.

I don't think they do, any of them, but if they do, there is as much evidence to support one as the other.

Of course the given god will tell you not to worship a false god, but then he would say that.

Tesco are not going to encourage you to shop at Asda.

Anyway, if there were gods, Jesus of the NT was NOT the son or representative of the wicked OT god.

Imo.

Jack

Originally Posted by Jack Napier

So the word of god in the OT was flawed?

You just don't understand the bible. Why bother? You people are just a broken record.

Originally Posted by RiseAgainst

You just don't understand the bible. Why bother? You people are just a broken record.

It's what is in your heart and mind that really counts.

I have read tonight of evil men, sick men, getting aroused at the idea of mass murder, on another thread.

If there was such a thing as a 'soul', mine feels literally ravaged even by reading such things, and being reminded that there is such sickness out there.

What worries me more is that is is mainstream.