Thread: Is siding with Israel a bad idea for America?

It's a fantastic idea.

You are running out of winnable wars. Time to start a new one...or three.

Depends on what is meant by "America".

1.If refering to the Military Industrial Profiteer America, then yes, showing extreme bias in favor of Israel is a definite bonus, infuriates other countries thus increasing potential for more small conventional wars which will be supplied with armaments made by US corporatiions using cheap Chinese labor.

2.If refering to the Evangelical Religious Apocolyptic Fundamentalist America, there is no choice because their God had decreed it must be so, and since the Evangelical has resigned himself to be a non thinking dutiful subserviant drone, peace cannot be allowed to happen..

3.If refering to the Zionist portion of America, then yes, since US military may be needed to expand settlements and destroy Iran. Much better to shed Gentile blood than Zionist blood.

4.If refering to Congress, well its just business, thats all. If Muslims had lobby group that bribed more than Israeli lobbyists, then answer would be no. But currently, more Congressmen are obliged (bribed) to show bias towards Israel.

5.If Conservative Amerca, yes, because reasons 1-4 apply to Conservative Republican party.

6. If Liberal America, barely yes, mainly due to reason no.4

7. If NeoNazi faction of America, ironically yes, as long as it is Zionism directed towards Jihadism which NeoNazi facists find as satisfactory way of watching Jews and other non Aryans kill each other.

Israel shares the same values, dreams and hopes as the United States. The enemies of Israel would smile if the United States and her way of life was destroyed.

So it always makes me a little queasy when our own wishes....in a subtle way....our own destruction.

Originally Posted by CKW

Israel shares the same values, dreams and hopes as the United States. The enemies of Israel would smile if the United States and her way of life was destroyed.

So it always makes me a little queasy when our own wishes....in a subtle way....our own destruction.

They're not exactly good values.

Originally Posted by Catenaccio

They're not exactly good values.

Ours? I think key values we mutually hold is freedom and tolerance. This is in stark contrast to the enemies of Israel....and our enemies....who will squash freedom of thought and freedom of religion with intimidation, terrorism and death.

It was apostate so called Christians who went to the Ashkenazis that say they are Jews and are not, and encouraged them to re-establish the old Pharisee Jerusalem power base.

Then they encouraged President Wilson to attack Germany so that Britain would promise the Ashkenazi Pharisees that they could begin invading Palestine.

The the Ashkenazis took control of Germany and with the help of Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill created WW2 and the holocaust of non-Ashkenazi so called Jews.

The holocaust guilt and sympathy card was used to arm and protect the invaders of Palestine to the point that President Johnson and the Israelis tried to sink the USS Liberty and use it as a pretext to nuke Egypt.

Thankfully, "nature's God" kept the USS Liberty afloat to foil their plan.

So, here we are today, trillions in debt, millions unemployed, America shamed and dishonored, and we are all getting gung ho to have more wars to enrich those who have profitted most from our 112 years, so far, of almost non-stop wars of aggression.

And, our cute little pet baby lion has grown up and eaten many of our friends, and now he and his Saudi, Muslim Brotherhood buddies are prepping us for what we so eagerly have done to Yugoslavia, Iraq, Lybia and now Egypt.

Europe and America are to be put under the Pharisee Noahide laws more perfectly implemented by the Muslim Brotherhood.

US adopted the Noahide laws in 1991 when the US began its war on Iraq.
The Noahide laws make Christianity a crime punishable by death, and only 1 "witness" is required to convict.

Since Americans have been so much in love with lies from before Lincoln's Communist revolution of 1861, then why shouldn't they be forced to go under the knife of the kind of "Muslim" terrorists they unleashed on Afghanistan, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Algeria, Lybia, Syria and others, for democracy?

Originally Posted by CKW

Ours? I think key values we mutually hold is freedom and tolerance. This is in stark contrast to the enemies of Israel....and our enemies....who will squash freedom of thought and freedom of religion with intimidation, terrorism and death.

Freedom? Israel is no example of freedom...

Originally Posted by Catenaccio

Freedom? Israel is no example of freedom...

In Israel--you aren't hanged for being gay. You aren't imprisoned or murdered for being Christian...or Muslim for that matter. A significant population of Muslims are Israeli Citizens. Finding a Jew in the surrounding totaltarian middle east countries would be practically impossible. The enemies of Israel also hate our tolerance and freedom.

Its amazing---that you see no major similarities between U.S and israel. But based on your posts... those similarities would mean nothing to you anyway.

aiding the people of Israel, through humanitarian efforts, fine. Aiding the nation of Israel, which is responisble for just as many acts of terrorism as any other middle eastern nation, not fine.

Originally Posted by CKW

Its amazing---that you see no major similarities between U.S and israel. But based on your posts... those similarities would mean nothing to you anyway.

Israel is a terrorist state with numerous human rights violations. Comparable to North Korea or Iran.