Thread: Was the war in middle east the right choice?

Say what you want about Iraq. While most people who vehemently oppose it only do so out of some self-righteous knee-jerk opposition to war, in all honesty Iraq was debatable. Did we do something good while we were there by taking out Saddam Hussein? Yes. Was it absolutely necessary to do right at that moment? Who knows.

But even if you oppose Iraq, you can't lump it together with Afghanistan unless your entire position is just based on emotion. Afghanistan was obviously necessary. We got attacked on our own soil. War was the obvious response. Even the peaceniks should be able to logically admit this even if they have trouble emotionally accepting it.

Originally Posted by Thinker

Your right and wrong, while it wasnt the reason for the government, it was the motivation behind the people. That ended up being the driving force. When the government wanted to make a move, it made up the weapons of mass destruction excuse to invade iraq, but 9/11 was the starting cause.

I don't think so... The PNAC were insisting that Saddam Hussein be taken out in 1998. Read their letters to Clinton.

Originally Posted by Unifier

Say what you want about Iraq. While most people who vehemently oppose it only do so out of some self-righteous knee-jerk opposition to war, in all honesty Iraq was debatable. Did we do something good while we were there by taking out Saddam Hussein? Yes. Was it absolutely necessary to do right at that moment? Who knows.

But even if you oppose Iraq, you can't lump it together with Afghanistan unless your entire position is just based on emotion. Afghanistan was obviously necessary. We got attacked on our own soil. War was the obvious response. Even the peaceniks should be able to logically admit this even if they have trouble emotionally accepting it.

I am not a peacenik, dont even assume i am. I do agree with the war against sadaam, he killed his own people. However the war on terror was not a logical war. It was based totally on emotion. Yes we did get attacked on our own soil, but so did they. 3000 people died in the twin towers, 60,000 middle eastern civilians died during the course of the war. We could have handled it alot more efficiantly.

Originally Posted by Margot

I don't think so... The PNAC were insisting that Saddam Hussein be taken out in 1998. Read their letters to Clinton.

That is true, but originally it was a war on terror. Then it turned into a war on terror, and a search for nuclear weapons. We did not invade Iraq until after that "search" began.

Originally Posted by Thinker

I am not a peacenik, dont even assume i am. I do agree with the war against sadaam, he killed his own people. However the war on terror was not a logical war. It was based totally on emotion. Yes we did get attacked on our own soil, but so did they. 3000 people died in the twin towers, 60,000 middle eastern civilians died during the course of the war. We could have handled it alot more efficiantly.

Of course you think so. Because you're an armchair strategist just like the rest of us. We all think we know so much better than the people in charge. Collateral damage is part of war. It's not something to champion, but it's not something to be ashamed of either. If you want to hold someone responsible for those 60,000 middle eastern civilian deaths, hold Osama bin Laden responsible. Had he not attacked the World Trade Center, those people would still be alive today.

Originally Posted by Unifier

Of course you think so. Because you're an armchair strategist just like the rest of us. We all think we know so much better than the people in charge. Collateral damage is part of war. It's not something to champion, but it's not something to be ashamed of either. If you want to hold someone responsible for those 60,000 middle eastern civilian deaths, hold Osama bin Laden responsible. Had he not attacked the World Trade Center, those people would still be alive today.

I never said i did hold the government responsible, however it is retarded when people use the "they killed people, its horrible" when they're ignorant of the innocent civilian deaths suffered on the other side too.

Originally Posted by Thinker

I never said i did hold the government responsible, however it is retarded when people use the "they killed people, its horrible" when they're ignorant of the innocent civilian deaths suffered on the other side too.

Who's denying them? I just put them in perspective.

Originally Posted by Unifier

Who's denying them? I just put them in perspective.

Nobody i think. Its just people keep saying that 9/11 was horrible, and i wonder whether they know about all the deaths we caused over there.

Originally Posted by Unifier

Say what you want about Iraq. While most people who vehemently oppose it only do so out of some self-righteous knee-jerk opposition to war, in all honesty Iraq was debatable. Did we do something good while we were there by taking out Saddam Hussein? Yes. Was it absolutely necessary to do right at that moment? Who knows.

But even if you oppose Iraq, you can't lump it together with Afghanistan unless your entire position is just based on emotion. Afghanistan was obviously necessary. We got attacked on our own soil. War was the obvious response. Even the peaceniks should be able to logically admit this even if they have trouble emotionally accepting it.

Afghanistan was obviously necessary.



Was it? That why the corrupt republican administration at the time, dropped everything and hi tailed it to Iraq?

Iraq was a waste, of time, money and lives. It's very telling that right wing administrations can just make s*it up to go bomb somebody with. It isn't "debatable" that is was an unnecessary, invasion of a formerly Sovereign country, BY CHOICE...We didn't have to, but, we did, because a corrupt right wing war mongers PREFERRED to do so. What country is the next preferred bombing recipient?

Originally Posted by RtWngaFraud

Afghanistan was obviously necessary.



Was it? That why the corrupt republican administration at the time, dropped everything and hi tailed it to Iraq?

Iraq was a waste, of time, money and lives. It's very telling that right wing administrations can just make s*it up to go bomb somebody with. It isn't "debatable" that is was an unnecessary, invasion of a formerly Sovereign country, BY CHOICE...We didn't have to, but, we did, because a corrupt right wing war mongers PREFERRED to do so. What country is the next preferred bombing recipient?

The right wing is not corrupt war mongers, they arent perfect but neither is the left wing.