View Poll Results: Should sodomy of children be treated differently in different states?

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  • No, Federal laws already provide that states are mandated to prosecute this equally

    3 27.27%
  • No, the fed should mandate they are prosecuted the same

    1 9.09%
  • Yes, one state's pedophile is another state's gray area

    4 36.36%
  • Yes, different states should punish child predators according to their own trends.

    3 27.27%
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Thread: Jerry Sandusky v Harvey Milk: What are the Differences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The XL View Post
    A 16-17 year old is not a boy. When I was 16, I was a lean 175 lbs, had a near 200 lbs bench, had thick facial hair, a 33 inch vertical jump, and was proficient in martial arts. I also was smarter than a lot of my brain dead adult teachers, among many other things. I'm not just talking myself up either, there were plenty of my classmates capable of similar things.

    When I was 11, I was a pudgy kid with no muscle tone, sounded like a child, and just wanted my teacher to (*)(*)(*)(*) and let me go home, because I was on a journey to catch all 150 Pokemon.

    Please stop trying to paint 16-17 year olds as helpless little boys, and trying to equate the two scenarios.
    LOL and Amen!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The XL View Post
    A 16-17 year old is not a boy. When I was 16, I was a lean 175 lbs, had a near 200 lbs bench, had thick facial hair, a 33 inch vertical jump, and was proficient in martial arts. I also was smarter than a lot of my brain dead adult teachers, among many other things. I'm not just talking myself up either, there were plenty of my classmates capable of similar things.

    When I was 11, I was a pudgy kid with no muscle tone, sounded like a child, and just wanted my teacher to (*)(*)(*)(*) and let me go home, because I was on a journey to catch all 150 Pokemon.

    Please stop trying to paint 16-17 year olds as helpless little boys, and trying to equate the two scenarios.
    This coming from a liberal (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) who i'm certain considered trayvon martin a child. Can you say double standard??????

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    How can you fit so many lies all in one post?

    Quote Originally Posted by Silhouette View Post
    I do. CAPTA. Capta funds prevention of child abuse, including sexual crimes against children, to each state. And as a condition of that money coming in, each state receiving it must provide a minimum set of standards, by law, of child protection. California receives the largest amount of funding from federal CAPTA and yet it is the state flaunting the highest amount of arrogance in the arena of child sex abuse. In recent years it has passed two laws aimed at promoting the demise of child sexual assault:

    1. Laws requiring children in schools to celebrate a known and documented pedophile: Harvey Milk as "LGBT hero" and

    2. A law pending to be signed by the governor there that forbids as a matter of law, a therapist assisting a child of ridding himself of his unwanted compulsive homosexual urges, arising from and a daily reminder of the assaults committed against him in the case of molestation; or in any case where a child himself is unhappy with a sexual compulsive behavior he wants to be rid of, if it happens only to be to the same gender: ist verboten. That's like an institution of mental prison. Or to put it another way, "mandated homosexual affectation." Therapists will soon be mandated to ONLY be able to tell that child that he must embrace those compulsions and memories as "natural" and "good". But therapists will still be allowed to suggest any number of crossover therapies aimed at easing kids from going gay from a straight orientation. In that case the child is still allowed to choose his own sexual destiny.

    And still the state receives CAPTA funding; and tourist income. Children should not have to emulate a child molestor. And children should be able to control their own choices as to their therapy or sexual orientation.

    I say, take both CAPTA funding and tourist income from that state until it gets it's act in line with CAPTA standards...
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    Every child a homosexual couples has is a desired child.

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    Of course any rational person can see the real contrast between sandusky and milk

    Sandusky was accused a crime by the victim, there were witnesses to the crime, he was arrested and convicted of a crime.

    Milk wasn't.

    Easy for the rational to distinguish
    The problem with marriage is that we heterosexuals are not honoring marriage sufficiently- not with homosexuals wanting to get married.

    Every child a homosexual couples has is a desired child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfrost1980 View Post
    This coming from a liberal (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) who i'm certain considered trayvon martin a child. Can you say double standard??????
    Why are you comparing these things? (A young man being shot to death vs. a man in his late teens having sex with an adult; where's the connection?)
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    No I don't want another federal law. Age of consent varies from state to state, and acording to circumstances. That is what determines whether it is a crime. I figure the state pols have a better idea of what constitutes the age of consent in their state than some clown in washington DC whos never been there.

    While having even consentual sex with a minor is generally a crime in most states the age of both parties is also a factor.
    No state punishes pederests as severely as it does pedophiles.
    Last edited by garyd; Jun 24 2012 at 06:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny-C View Post
    Why are you comparing these things? (A young man being shot to death vs. a man in his late teens having sex with an adult; where's the connection?)
    read the context. the connection is you liberals like to pick and choose who you consider an adult. when you are arguing for something the 16 yr. old is an adult, but when you're against it the 17 yr. old is a child. Martin was not a child thats the point. <<< MODERATOR EDIT: INSULT/FLAMEBAIT >>>
    Last edited by falena; Jun 25 2012 at 03:37 AM. Reason: Insult/Flamebait

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfrost1980 View Post
    read the context. the connection is liberals like to pick and choose who you consider an adult. when you are arguing for something the 16 yr. old is an adult, but when you're against it the 17 yr. old is a child. Martin was not a child thats the point. <<< MODERATOR EDIT: INSULT/FLAMEBAIT >>>
    I think I said the right thing; but you disagree.

    Even so, your insult has been reported.
    Last edited by falena; Jun 25 2012 at 03:40 AM. Reason: Insult/Flamebait from quote
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silhouette View Post
    We've all heard the sordid news, the serial fashion in which a man in a trusted public position took advantage of his clout to sodomize minor boys.

    And then of course now there's also Jerry Sandusky.

    How different are the two men's crimes? From where I'm sitting, the only difference is that one "came out" gay and the other didn't. One is a "GLBT hero" and the other will rot in prison for life.

    Should two states in the union have such a disparity in the handling of the same crimes?

    PLEASE LEAVE THIS THREAD AND DELETE THE OTHER ONE AND COMBINE IT HERE.
    Good grief, is Harvey Milk all you ever think about?

    Here is the answer to your question:

    Harvey Milk had CONSENSUAL sex with his partners, Jerry Sandusky had NON CONSENSUAL contact with young kids who were frightened of him.

    There is no similarities between the two men at all. Not one.

    /end thread
    Last edited by Makedde; Jun 24 2012 at 06:42 PM.
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    BOOO HOOO HOOO. typical liberal.LOL

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