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Thread: Obamney and Romney both did a great job at angering voters into voting against them

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    Default Obamney and Romney both did a great job at angering voters into voting against them

    I sometimes wonder if good people no longer exist at all, if they just do not exist on the media in a form of legitimate politicians, or if's just me? you will be voting this November for or more against the candidate?


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    I can mention three good honest candidates in recent elections they are Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, and Gary Johnson. You can tell they are decent by the fact that the main stream media has tried to downplay and undercover each in spite of their resumes.

    Ron Paul has the most consistent voting record for his beliefs that i have ever seen and has not been afraid to stand up to the issues within a major party. He actually offered taking a lower wage as president.

    Ralph Nader is responsible for more passed progressive legislation than any progressive in or out of office in the last century. He is a well known consumer advocate and has spent most of his time and money trying to improve the American experience.

    Gary Johnson is on the Libertarian ticket, he was a big success in new mexico, advocates for civil liberties and efficient monetary policy that i like such as the fair tax.

    All three of these candidates support a non-intrusive, non-hostile, logical approach to foreign policy and national security. I am supporting and will campaign on behalf of Gary Johnson in the hopes of if not electing establishing a third party in a competitive position for the next election.
    A " what are you guys doing?"

    R&D "were trying to get out of this hole"

    R"but he's messing everything up"

    D" Me your the one on the wrong side!"

    A" Listen you guys can lean to the left or the right all you want, but your not getting out of that hole until you climb up."

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    Also i listened to your youtube audio clip and what it proposes is impractical, improbable and completely unenforceable.

    Why?

    Because if you study the history of republics back to Rome you know that corruption surpasses media and the populari are often easily bribed.

    Greed corruption and bribery are horrible but if you outlaw them who will enforce this? The federal government?

    The only way to curb this problem is to test qualify reps who would be unlikely to participate in bribery from a measurable personality profile.

    Further more this would eliminate the ability to organize and petition our government because that qualifies you as special interests, we should always be aloud to petition the govt.

    Candidates ask for your donations to get exposure, right now it is the only viable way to do so, so please don't let the fact that someone is asking for donations discourage you from voting at all.
    A " what are you guys doing?"

    R&D "were trying to get out of this hole"

    R"but he's messing everything up"

    D" Me your the one on the wrong side!"

    A" Listen you guys can lean to the left or the right all you want, but your not getting out of that hole until you climb up."

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    Quote Originally Posted by peoplevsmedia View Post
    I sometimes wonder if good people no longer exist at all, if they just do not exist on the media in a form of legitimate politicians, or if's just me? you will be voting this November for or more against the candidate?
    I wonder if there are good people that sit on their asses and dont vote.......just complain.....

    .....who then have the gall to come to PF and question the motives of people that do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peoplevsmedia View Post
    I sometimes wonder if good people no longer exist at all, if they just do not exist on the media in a form of legitimate politicians, or if's just me? you will be voting this November for or more against the candidate?
    Two Words: GARY JOHNSON.
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    I'm willing to change my position at any time on any issue. I have done so in the past. All you need is a logical, provable case, and I'm all in. The question is, have you got what it takes?
    Oh, and just so you're not confused, I'm an apatheist libertarian.

    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." --Noam Chomsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    I wonder if there are good people that sit on their asses and dont vote.......just complain.....

    .....who then have the gall to come to PF and question the motives of people that do
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    Uhhh... well yeah. With the exception of being good and not voting, I'm pretty competent at the rest.
    "Now consider a group of baboons. They are the loudest, most dangerous, most obnoxious, most viciously aggressive and least intelligent of all primates. And what is the proper collective noun for a group of baboons? Believe it or not ... a Congress!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lockhart89 View Post
    1. Greed corruption and bribery are horrible but if you outlaw them who will enforce this? The federal government?
    2. Candidates ask for your donations to get exposure, right now it is the only viable way to do so, so please don't let the fact that someone is asking for donations discourage you from voting at all.
    Answers are in my speech, the laws enforce laws, but the better question is what would prevent your Gary Johnson from not becoming identical to other nice speakers. there are many laws on people, but your kind seem to be afraid of laws on government. I understand why.

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