Thread: Outsourcing is NOT wrong or evil. It is vital and necessary!

Ironic post of the decade! You want to increase competition, by limiting competition. You can't make up this sort of comedy.

Yes, how funny of you. Nobody who lives in the USA that needs a minimum of $10-$16 an hour to make ends meet without mooching off the government, can compete with a grass hut dweller making $2.50 a day. Hilarious at the ignorance you display.

Ahh, evoking "romanticism of the past" -- You mean the same 50's and 60's where we segregated part of our population, air conditioning wasn't ubiquitous, the same 50's and 60's where we had a lower quality of life and even as a percent of GDP, produced and consumed far less?

Your romanticism is nothing but that. We're far better off today than anyone living 50+ years ago.

Yes when only one bread winner per household was sufficient to provide all of a families needs and mom could run the household while dad earned enough to feed the entire family well balanced nutritional meals of fresh foods unlaced by poisons/preservatives. When a single breadwinner was able to place a roof over the families head, pay for their own doctor bills without the need for insurance, and was still able to put a little money aside for a rainy day or to help put a kid or two through college without dependency on the government, or other tax payers. Yep we got better toys, but on average we work longer hours, more jobs, with two bread winners on duty and more of a percentage of those combined paychecks go for the same necessities items like food and housing, we have to have insurance to get basic health care needs, and less and less people are able to sustain their own profitable businesses than ever before. And our families are much worse off because of it. But I guess it all depends on how delusional one wishes to spin the reality of the situation and/or remember things.

So many deserving workers relegated to second hand citizens... Oh yea... and we employee more people today, even with current unemployment numbers than have ever worked at any time in history.

With jobs that make them eligible for government handouts that drain our system unmercifully.

The rest of your post was mostly arrogant filth attempting to portray me as someone who is antigrowth and prosperity, when ironically you're the one who endorses policies that work against those goals.

I just calls em as I see em, and you portray yourself as what you are. Your goals are to create unnatural wealth for the chosen few, and an imposed dependency on the majority. The facts contradict your fantasy world.

Originally Posted by JoeSixpack

Nobody who lives in the USA that needs a minimum of $10-$16 an hour to make ends meet without mooching off the government, can compete with a grass hut dweller making $2.50 a day.

It's also harder for someone who lives in Nevada to make a living catching lobsters. Which is why folks in Nevada do something different and we outsource the lobster catching to Maine.

corporations are selling out America, hope you like Mexico, cause if Republicans get there way, that is what we will be

Originally Posted by My Fing ID

So we should tax the toaster until it costs the same as it would for a US company to make and sell them? Why? Personally I prefer to be able to afford things.

Agreed. The only reason the toaster manufacturer would outsource the job is to have it made cheaper, than pay the shipping and sell it in America. I think FreshAir is uneducated on just how it works. We are not buying these things from China. We have manufacturing plants IN China that make OUR products at a cheaper price than Americans would charge.

It's also been proven that although American workers lose jobs and must take lower paying jobs, the standard of living goes up with outsourcing because prices go down for American consumers.

Originally Posted by My Fing ID

So we should tax the toaster until it costs the same as it would for a US company to make and sell them? Why? Personally I prefer to be able to afford things.

Originally Posted by SiliconMagician

Absurd analogy.

Why can't people realize that outsourcing companies like Wal-mart lift the quality of life of poor people by allowing them to purchase and own items that they normally wouldn't be able too without it?

You are hitting the nail on the head. It's rare to find people educated enough on Capitalism that they know what's best for the country as a whole.

Originally Posted by JoeSixpack

Yes, how funny of you.

I'm not the one talking about increasing competition by decreasing it and you won't be worming your way out of that comment.

Yes when only one bread winner per household was sufficient to provide all of a families...

And we had far less, in both absolute and relative terms. I'm not particularly fond of it requiring two persons to fund a household, but it's not got a thing to do with free trade.

With jobs that make them eligible for government handouts that drain our system unmercifully.

We produce more than we ever have. So, another ill informed position.

I just calls em as I see em

Clearly, relying on anecdotal evidence is a huge part of your problem.

Your goals are to create unnatural wealth for the chosen few, and an imposed dependency on the majority.

More lies, that free trade benefits all of society is a commonly accepted fact. You're ignorance about that is atypical.

The facts contradict your fantasy world.

More comedy. Facts are the one thing you have to avoid to maintain your perspective.

Originally Posted by Anikdote

I'm not the one talking about increasing competition by decreasing it and you won't be worming your way out of that comment.


And we had far less, in both absolute and relative terms. I'm not particularly fond of it requiring two persons to fund a household, but it's not got a thing to do with free trade.


We produce more than we ever have. So, another ill informed position.

Clearly, relying on anecdotal evidence is a huge part of your problem.


More lies, that free trade benefits all of society is a commonly accepted fact. You're ignorance about that is atypical.


More comedy. Facts are the one thing you have to avoid to maintain your perspective.

Protectionists never fail to amaze me in their lack of knowledge of Capitalism.

Originally Posted by My Fing ID

So we should tax the toaster until it costs the same as it would for a US company to make and sell them? Why? Personally I prefer to be able to afford things.

Originally Posted by liberalminority

No its an example of them profiting at the cost of American jobs, American companies have a patriotic duty to keep plants in the good ole US of A to keep our middle class thriving.

Chevy is an American product and if foreigners want a Cadillac they must pay higher prices to ship them from the Homeland to their countries. If companies somehow are losing profits because of this then that is a moral sacrifice for their country.

You are wrong on multiple levels. Manufacturers do NOT have a duty to keep jobs here. They have a mission to make their business grow and thrive which in turn raises the standard of living higher here in the good ol US of A. Outsourcing jobs to China and then paying the shipping to bring the product here and sell it here is cheaper and when a corporation does this it lowers the costs of EVERYTHING to the consumers. It makes prices go down, and because capitalism is in play, there is competition.

So yes, American workers lose jobs, just like when Ranchers use harvesters instead of manual labor on thousands of acres, but it's because of that harvester that the price of a specific crop will drop dramatically. That saving is passed on to the consumer. Maybe that consumer used to work for that farm and now has a lower paying job. The reality is, America as a whole gains more than the American worker looses. This has been proven multiple times and even the slightest amount of research will solidify that.

Originally Posted by liberalminority

Really lets outsource every job in the auto industry, not just those from GM but all the auto dealers and see how that affects our economy. If the depression was bad this will leave Americans to fend for themselves like Africans and haitians.

Probably what would happen is that the cost of making the cars would come down. That means more people have cars, and thus more jobs fixing cars. And of course more gas sales, which means more jobs at gas stations, more jobs for people in Texas to drill for oil, more tanker truck drivers. More auto engineers to design the next year's model of car.

And perhaps we could innovate in other areas -- some new product that doesn't even exist yet.

But whatever. lets product buggy whip makers and horse breeders at the expense of future technologies.

Originally Posted by thediplomat2.0

Protectionists never fail to amaze me in their lack of knowledge of Capitalism.

Very few who benefit from it, appreciate it.