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Well Lets see... you're coming to report that I was wrong, based upon Info from the Center for Disease Control which confirms my position?

Well Ok, Coy... however you need to concede is fine with me...

Now to repeat my position: IF you do not have sodomitic sex with a HOMOSEXUAL OR SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD SEX WITH A HOMOSEXUAL, OR if you do not engage in SODOMY with an HIV DRUG USER or someone who has had sex with an IV Drug user... [b]you've NO CHANCE of contracting AIDs...[]/b]
Once again, incorrect. And, if you had quoted the rest of my post:

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Now I'm sure you will find some way of twisting this to support your contention that it is sodomy alone that is the risk factor rather than unprotected sex and promiscuity - DESPITE the fact (as was noted by another poster...Java or Ray maybe...)that homosexuals who practice safe sex are at no greater risk then similar heterosexuals....(but that would just confuse you...)
....and if you consider the transmission of AIDS worldwide...you would be forced to admit it.

But that would destroy your thesis then wouldn't it Pubes?


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...providing them the legal status which would raise their behavior to that of 'normal to preferred' is cultural suicide.
Hardly since the proportion of homosexuals is miniscule.

Ah...the politics of fear...
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Here is more evidence for you to ignore Publius!

Fourteen Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism
By Dr. Lawrence Britt
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Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

Right-wing

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

Either side!

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

The right-wing has plenty Illegal immigrants, Gays, Muslims

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

Right-wing

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

right-wing

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

Either

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

Right-wing

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.


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9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.


Right-wing

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

Right-wing

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

You have already expressed your hatred for dictionaries and "Liberal Intelligentsia"

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.


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13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

Either

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Either


I know you will say this is liberal propaganda. But more evidence that you are wrong. You said to name one similarity, I just named 10. I await your response.

Let me guess my argument is non sequitur!!

And I am still waiting pub!
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Ahh yes, yet another voice from the darkness to inform us that anyone can become infected with the HIV... A point which is being advanced first, without a contest and second, in the absence of a stated basis in reasoning, so we're left to presume that the rationale behind pointing this out, is to advance the conclusion that because hetero's can transmit the HIV, homo's aren't any different; but I wonder if that's true...
Erroneous presumption on your part. The point was advanced to specifically refute this quote:

"FACT: If one is NOT engaging in intravenous drug use or sodomitic sex with either homosexuals or those who have engaged in sex with homosexuals and IV drug users or both, one has NO chance of contracting AIDs. PERIOD."


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From the Link...

"If infected blood or sexual fluid gets into your bloodstream, then you can become infected."

The issue here however is HIV is a virus transmitted through contact with the bloodstream... and that sexual fluids can carry the virus.

So the question becomes, what sexual practice promotes the likelihood of sexual fluids and blood of a HIV infected person coming into contact with the bloodstream of a non-infected person?

Sodomy... Now there's a sure bet.
As can heterosexual intercourse.

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Hmm... Now between homo and hetero sexualities... which one depends purely upon sodomy?

Yes friends, that brings us once again to: CHECK MATE. In the form of conclusive proof that homosexuals are vastly different from Heterosexuals in terms of the likelihood of transmitting and contracting the HIV.
I don't think that word means what you think it means.

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We don't pretend that a sexuality dependent upon the practice most likely to transmit the HIV is analogous or equitable to that sexuality which in no way depends upon that practice. Because in doing so, we foster a false premise which can only lead to the promotion of that, the only sexuality which depends purely upon that sexual practice certain to transmit the flamer's death.

Now as I stated above... IF you do not have sodomitic sex with a HOMOSEXUAL OR SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD SEX WITH A HOMOSEXUAL, OR if you do not engage in SODOMY with an HIV DRUG USER or someone who has had sex with an IV Drug user... you've NO CHANCE of contracting AIDs.
In the interest of accuracy, how about we rephrase that to say that you have a lesser chance of contracting AIDS?
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Erroneous presumption on your part. The point was advanced to specifically refute this quote:

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"FACT: If one is NOT engaging in intravenous drug use or sodomitic sex with either homosexuals or those who have engaged in sex with homosexuals and IV drug users or both, one has NO chance of contracting AIDs. PERIOD."
Then you failed, in that the statement is incontestable fact.


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From the Link...

"If infected blood or sexual fluid gets into your bloodstream, then you can become infected."

The issue here however is HIV is a virus transmitted through contact with the bloodstream... and that sexual fluids can carry the virus.

So the question becomes, what sexual practice promotes the likelihood of sexual fluids and blood of a HIV infected person coming into contact with the bloodstream of a non-infected person?

Sodomy... Now there's a sure bet.
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As can heterosexual intercourse.
Nooooo... not even CLOSE... if the heterosexuals did not previously engage in sex with a homosexual or someone who had engaged in sex with a homosexual, or an IV Drug user or someone that engaged in Sex with an IV Drug user... there is NO CHANCE that they will contract the HIV. Again as stated at the outset, this assumes they haven't received a blood donated by a homosexual or HIV drug user or someone who's engaged in sex with such... Point being take those engaging in abhorrent and deviant behavior out of the equation and the HIV goes with 'em.


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I don't think that word means what you think it means.
What word Sodomy? ROFLMNAO... Well I'm buttressed by the fact that you couldn't even find the courage to CITE THE FREAKIN' WORD! But I'm willing to bet I do...



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In the interest of accuracy, how about we rephrase that to say that you have a lesser chance of contracting AIDS?
No... Considering the odds it’s virtually impossible.
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Of course you failed to respond to my post.
Well Frod, I've destroyed this idiocy already and you posted that you weren't interested in continuing with your losses...

Posted @ 12:16 site time: "I just want to say this is my last attempt, to make you see reality!!

But then, in keeping with your trend, you soon departed that reality in exchange for another... LOL...

Posted @ 12:32 site time: "Of course you failed to respond to my post."

Posted @ 1:48 site time: "Again you failed to respond to my post!! I am beginning to think you are avoiding me!"

Posted @ 2:08 site times: "And I am still waiting pub!"

ROFLMNAO…

But since you went to so much trouble, I feel compelled to point out that everyone of these traits you've listed were fundamental traits of Lenin and Stalin's USSR, Mao's People Republic Of China, the Democratic People’s Republic Of North Korea, the Khmer Rouge Cambodia, Castro's Cuba... All LEFTIST nations, ALL LEFTIST Governments... ALL WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

Now what that means Frod... is that those traits, as being an essential function of government... are actually LEFTIST TRAITS.

Now as to your sourced reference; the mysterious good Dr. Lawrence Britt apparently does not exist anywhere except in references to this highly touted revisionist leftist screed.

That's right Frod, your sourced Social Scientists... can't be found anywhere on earth... at least anywhere Google goes except on anti-Bush websites, here the sole purpose for which it is being used is to paint President Bush and his supporters as fascists...

This "article" goes back to the early Bush years and cannot be found in print anywhere and as stated above, Dr. Lawrence Britt can't be found to have ever uttered another word on this subject or any other.

What's odd indeed is that NOT ONE magazine, newspaper, television, or radio broadcaster has ever interviewed this man; they've never published or posted ANY other documents written by him... 10,000 websites have used this man’s work as BEDROCK SCHOLASHIP... and nowhere can he be found working anywhere in the world, at least nowhere which might find its way to a Google inquiry.

ROFLMNAO... Great work Frod... you're all over it!
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Well Frod, I've destroyed this idiocy already and you posted that you weren't interested in continuing with your losses...

Posted @ 12:16 site time: "I just want to say this is my last attempt, to make you see reality!!

But then, in keeping with your trend, you soon departed that reality in exchange for another... LOL...

Posted @ 12:32 site time: "Of course you failed to respond to my post."

Posted @ 1:48 site time: "Again you failed to respond to my post!! I am beginning to think you are avoiding me!"

Posted @ 2:08 site times: "And I am still waiting pub!"

ROFLMNAO…

But since you went to so much trouble, I feel compelled to point out that everyone of these traits you've listed were fundamental traits of Lenin and Stalin's USSR, Mao's People Republic Of China, the Democratic People’s Republic Of North Korea, the Khmer Rouge Cambodia, Castro's Cuba... All LEFTIST nations, ALL LEFTIST Governments... ALL WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

Now what that means Frod... is that those traits, as being an essential function of government... are actually LEFTIST TRAITS.

Now as to your sourced reference; the mysterious good Dr. Lawrence Britt apparently does not exist anywhere except in references to this highly touted revisionist leftist screed.

That's right Frod, your sourced Social Scientists... can't be found anywhere on earth... at least anywhere Google goes except on anti-Bush websites, here the sole purpose for which it is being used is to paint President Bush and his supporters as fascists...

This "article" goes back to the early Bush years and cannot be found in print anywhere and as stated above, Dr. Lawrence Britt can't be found to have ever uttered another word on this subject or any other.

What's odd indeed is that NOT ONE magazine, newspaper, television, or radio broadcaster has ever interviewed this man; they've never published or posted ANY other documents written by him... 10,000 websites have used this man’s work as BEDROCK SCHOLASHIP... and nowhere can he be found working anywhere in the world, at least nowhere which might find its way to a Google inquiry.

ROFLMNAO... Great work Frod... you're all over it!

You destroyed nothing. This post does not respond to a single thing. You talk in circles. Without responding to the fact that of the 14 things mentioned, all of them share similarities with right-wing governments. You asked for one similarity from another poster. I gave you 14. I am now done, because the insanity of your mind knows no bounds!!
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Once again, incorrect. And, if you had quoted the rest of my post:



....and if you consider the transmission of AIDS worldwide...you would be forced to admit it.

But that would destroy your thesis then wouldn't it Pubes?
How would it do that Coy?

The HIV is transmitted the same way every where it's transmitted... the HIV finds access to the blood stream. Sticking a needle used by a Homo IV user is the FASTEST way to get it. Sodomitic sex with someone that's had sex with a homosexual or IV drug user is number 2...

Deviant behavior present everywhere the HIV is found. Period.

As a hetero-sexual YOU HAVE NO CHANCE OF CONTRACTING THE HIV IF YOU AVOID SHARING NEEDLES AND HAVING SODOMITIC SEX WITH THOSE WHO HAVE HAD SEX WITH HOMOSEXUALS and accepting blood from supplies that allow IV drug users and homosexuals to contribute...
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You destroyed nothing. This post does not respond to a single thing. You talk in circles. Without responding to the fact that of the 14 things mentioned, all of them share similarities with right-wing governments. You asked for one similarity from another poster. I gave you 14. I am now done, because the insanity of your mind knows no bounds!!

ROFLMNAO... Poor Frod.

He just can't come to grips that his source is fradulent, his traits are leftist and his argument fallacious (Argumentum ad populum).

But hey... that's the revisionist left for ya.

I feel compelled to (AGAIN) point out that everyone of these traits you've listed were fundamental traits of Lenin and Stalin's USSR, Mao's People Republic Of China, the Democratic People’s Republic Of North Korea, the Khmer Rouge Cambodia, Castro's Cuba... All LEFTIST nations, ALL LEFTIST Governments... ALL WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

Watch Frod run from that incontestable reality again kids...

Now did you ever think you would see someone advance the purest essence of the worlds infamous communist governments as leftwing? But that is simply one example which illustrates how desperate these crazy leftists are.

Now friends, Frod here has advanced a source which does not exist, he's advanced it as if he KNEW of Dr. Lawrence Britt, as if this article was merely something he pulled from Dr. Britts body of work. Well it turns out Dr. Britt does NOT EXIST! The article is rancid DISINFORMATION! Yet Frod continues to cling to it, as it were the very essence of truth, itself!

ROFLMNAO... Sweet mother that's funny.
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How would it do that Coy?

The HIV is transmitted the same way every where it's transmitted... the HIV finds access to the blood stream...
There it is Pubie - you answered your own conundrum. Very good! HIV also enters the bloodstream through heterosexual sex.

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Uhhhh....well...devient behavior exists everywhere the human species exists...so...I'm a bit sketchy on cause and effect there.

But, using your line of reasoning I have a bold new proposal to present on the transmission of AIDS.

Cockroaches.

Everywhere there is AIDS there are cockroaches. Whatcha think? I think we could make a killing on roach motels

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As a hetero-sexual YOU HAVE NO CHANCE OF CONTRACTING THE HIV IF YOU AVOID SHARING NEEDLES AND HAVING SODOMITIC SEX WITH THOSE WHO HAVE HAD SEX WITH HOMOSEXUALS and accepting blood from supplies that allow IV drug users and homosexuals to contribute...
Umh...wrong little Grasshopper. Heterosexuals form another reservoir. Too bad.
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As a hetero-sexual YOU HAVE NO CHANCE OF CONTRACTING THE HIV IF YOU AVOID SHARING NEEDLES AND HAVING SODOMITIC SEX WITH THOSE WHO HAVE HAD SEX WITH HOMOSEXUALS and accepting blood from supplies that allow IV drug users and homosexuals to contribute...
This is not correct. HIV was definitely spread very rapidly by promisuity in gays, however to say that one can avoid HIV by avoiding sodomy with someone who has had sex with gays is inaccurate. HIV can be spread through vaginal intercourse and heterosexual intercourse.
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