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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    Yeah, but people like him are more than prepared to accept a mormon. Those guys wear special holy underwear and are into some really weird stuff, heaven on planet Kolob and all.
    That's because unlike Muslims, you seldom hear of Mormons rising up against their country. They help in their communities and on a whole are good citizens. Those are the things that are important.
    Beam me up Scottie, no intelligent life down here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RtWngaFraud View Post
    Romney is a republican...war mongor by default..
    Who was President in WWI,WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Kosovo? Who was the President who first got us involved helping the Afghans against the Soviets?
    Beam me up Scottie, no intelligent life down here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackrook View Post
    Why is Obama filing a lawsuit against allowing Ohio military voters extra time to send in their absentee ballots?
    That's a lie, he isn't.
    He is suing to reverse the hasty Jim Crow tactic that you people concocted to give Ohio voters less time to vote than others.

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    But Mormons aren't talking about going to war to make everyone else obey their special rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee S View Post
    You did write the title of this thread, didn't you? The title of the thread is "Armed Forces Overwhelmingly Support Obama", is it not? That title is tremendously misleading, isn't it? I have no quarrel with your individual posts. I do feel you were less than truthful about the thread title.
    In numbers and money, they do overwhelmingly support Obama. Prove it different. But not with a worthless Military Times poll.

    Quote Originally Posted by protectionist View Post
    Islam has nothing to do with religious equality. Islam is not, and never has been, a "religion". It is a political ideology (masquerading as a religion) that is so filled with vile immoralities, that the founders of it needed something to shield them from the severe criticisms they knew they were sure to get. They found it in religion. By forcing the 7th century Middle Easterners to go up against God, the early Muslims got them to go with them. That, and killing them if they didn't. And they're still doing it.
    Answer: Crusades, Cromwellian Conquest, Spanish Inquisition and a few hundred more.

    Quote Originally Posted by protectionist View Post
    Strike 1.

    Strike 2.

    Strike 3.

    Try answering questions, so you don't strike out in the forum.
    They've already been answered. You can't read.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marine1 View Post
    Romney is a strong backer of the military. What military service did Obama and even Clinton serve in? Mormon men are required to serve in missionary work. As for who backs who.

    The Military Times reports the professional core of the U.S. military overwhelmingly favors Mitt Romney over President Obama in the upcoming election — but not because of any particular military issues, according to a new poll of more than 3,100 active and reserve troops."

    http://www.woai.com/content/news/new...V7j2Qt0GQ.cspx
    If Romney's such a strong backer of the military, just how many times did he mention veterans in his acceptance speech? In the debates? So you're another one that thinks missionary service is equal to military service? Tell that to the loved ones of the tens of thousands of young men killed in Vietnam.


    I've already proven the Military Times poll fraudulent. Why do you keep bringing it up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marine1 View Post
    That's because unlike Muslims, you seldom hear of Mormons rising up against their country. They help in their communities and on a whole are good citizens. Those are the things that are important.
    Ahh...I see what's going on. You have no idea of the history of Mormons, do you? Allow me to educate you.

    http://press.umsystem.edu/%28S%281ro...ookieSupport=1

    http://www.historynet.com/utah-war-u...n-settlers.htm

    Brigham Young's shadow government:

    http://www.legendsofamerica.com/we-mormons.html

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    Last edited by Troianii; Oct 25 2012 at 10:24 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not The Guardian View Post
    In numbers and money, they do overwhelmingly support Obama.....
    No, in numbers, they do not - prove it otherwise. In money, sure. And? So what? Despite common misconceptions, liberals almost always give more in political donations. Citing the $ donations proves nothing more than that liberals donate more money to political candidates.

    Quote Originally Posted by Not The Guardian View Post
    Answer: Crusades, Cromwellian Conquest, Spanish Inquisition and a few hundred more.
    That's not an answer, that's just a series of words that doesn't have jack(*)(*)(*)(*) to do with what you responded to. Of the supposed "answers" you gave, the Crusades were a response to the invasion of the Holy Lands by intolerant Muslims. From the time the Byzantines surrendered Jerusalem in 638 until the fall of Jerusalem to the Franks in 1099, it was ruled by Muslims. Why was it invaded? Because the Seljuk Turks took it in 1071, ending centuries of relative peace and pilgrimage, along w/trade. Christians were denied their rights to visit the Holy places, and so when the Byzantines called on the Pope to aid in the DEFENSIVE WAR against the Turks, the Pope also ordered "soldiers of the Cross" (essentially, soldiers who swore allegiance to the Pope) to take Jerusalem.

    The Crusades were what they are so often described as by ignorant, foolish people. The First Crusade was, in every sense, justified. After that, Christians continued to fight for Jerusalem BECAUSE Muslims who controlled it (with few exceptions) were intolerant. The Kingdom of Jerusalem, despite common depictions, was a relatively tolerant and secular government.



    Quote Originally Posted by Not The Guardian View Post
    If Romney's such a strong backer of the military, just how many times did he mention veterans in his acceptance speech? In the debates? So you're another one that thinks missionary service is equal to military service? Tell that to the loved ones of the tens of thousands of young men killed in Vietnam.
    I've heard a similiar mantra dozens of times, and it's (*)(*)(*)(*)ing pathetic. Romney's bad because he didn't got to Vietnam? Oh, come lad. No need to grow up a partisan hack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Not The Guardian View Post
    I've already proven the Military Times poll fraudulent. Why do you keep bringing it up?
    You haven't proven it fraudulent. It's completely legit. It oversamples officers, as the poll states. But high-ranking enlisted? You're kidding, right? 40% of respondents are E5 through E8. Uh, they make up half of the enlisted core. I knew 19year olds who were E5, even an 18 year old. Hell, I joined at 19 and made E4 at 21. To think, half my buddies were "senior enlisted" with about three years in!

    Look, you don't know what you're talking about. E5 isn't senior enlisted. The most liberal definition starts it at E7.



    Quote Originally Posted by Not The Guardian View Post
    Ahh...I see what's going on. You have no idea of the history of Mormons, do you? Allow me to educate you.

    http://press.umsystem.edu/%28S%281ro...ookieSupport=1

    http://www.historynet.com/utah-war-u...n-settlers.htm

    Brigham Young's shadow government:

    http://www.legendsofamerica.com/we-mormons.html
    You didn't read what he said, did you? He didn't say, "because, unlike Muslims, Mormons didn't rise up against their country or partake in violence 174 years ago." Nor would anyone give a (*)(*)(*)(*) if he did say it.
    Last edited by Troianii; Oct 25 2012 at 10:23 AM.
    Political Compass: Right: 5.81 Libertarian: 6.21 Foreign policy: -2.59 Culture -0.48
    "Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat. Women often have to flee from the only homes they have ever known. Women are often the refugees from conflict and sometimes, more frequently in today’s warfare, victims." - Hillary Clinton
    "I think the phrase rhymes with clucking bell." -Catpain Blackadder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not The Guardian View Post
    In numbers and money, they do overwhelmingly support Obama. Prove it different. But not with a worthless Military Times poll.
    You are the one making the claim that the military overwhelmingly support Obama. Lee is simply pointing out that your claim is misleading because you have no evidence regarding "numbers" and instead regarding only "money".
    Bush won 2004 with 16% more of the military vote. McCain lost with 10% more of the military vote. Current polls of "veterans", both Rasmussen and Gallup show a 24% lead for Romney among veterans. I suspect among current military it is probably nearer to the 10-16% range. Did YOU have anything to prove it different? Because your comparison of who is giving money from the military is probably even less accurate than the Military Times polls as far as reflecting all current military personnel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilifier of Zombies View Post
    The military is voting for Obama by a margin of seven points...
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...84C02120120513
    Dont know anything about Reuters polls but since they currently have Obama with a 7% lead among all voters, I tend to question its results that are so different than all the other polls with the two tied or Romney with a small lead. And so different than the Gallup and Rasmussen results for Veterans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marine1 View Post
    Who was President in WWI,WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Kosovo? Who was the President who first got us involved helping the Afghans against the Soviets?
    I don't know. I never said anything that you disagree with. My etch-a-sketch is very clear.

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