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    Quote Originally Posted by Woogs View Post
    An immediate massive devaluation of the USD.

    Despite all our efforts, our reign as world's reserve may be coming to an end by way of China.

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    On Sept. 11, Pastor Lindsey Williams, former minister to the global oil companies during the building of the Alaskan pipeline, announced the most significant event to affect the U.S. dollar since its inception as a currency. For the first time since the 1970's, when Henry Kissenger forged a trade agreement with the Royal house of Saud to sell oil using only U.S. dollars, China announced its intention to bypass the dollar for global oil customers and began selling the commodity using their own currency.

    Lindsey Williams: "The most significant day in the history of the American dollar, since its inception, happened on Thursday, Sept. 6. On that day, something took place that is going to affect your life, your family, your dinner table more than you can possibly imagine."

    "On Thursday, Sept. 6... just a few days ago, China made the official announcement. China said on that day, our banking system is ready, all of our communication systems are ready, all of the transfer systems are ready, and as of that day, Thursday, Sept. 6, any nation in the world that wishes from this point on, to buy, sell, or trade crude oil, can do using the Chinese currency, not the American dollar.

    This announcement by China is one of the most significant sea changes in the global economic and monetary systems, but was barely reported on due to its announcement taking place during the Democratic convention last week. The ramifications of this new action are vast, and could very well be the catalyst that brings down the dollar as the global reserve currency, and change the entire landscape of how the world purchases energy.


    http://www.examiner.com/article/doll...oil-using-yuan

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    Dark times lie ahead for the U.S. dollar as its future as the world’s reserve currency looks to be in great jeopardy. For more than 50 years the U.S. dollar has been the chief monetary instrument used by the nations of the world to facilitate trade involving commodities such as petroleum, manufactured products, and gold. But the times are changing and many of these nations, with China at the forefront, are finalizing trade agreements that utilize only their own currencies.

    So it appears that the reign of the U.S. dollar as the world’s reserve currency will, quite likely, be coming to an end within the next ten years. It is certainly no surprise that China, widely considered to be the premier economic power of the future, is wasting no time in exerting its growing power and influence in these matters. China is actively working with nations in Asia, the Middle East and other regions of the world to bring dramatic changes to the way world commerce is conducted and money is exchanged.

    Many of these countries who are moving away from the dollar no longer view America as a stable and reliable force on the world economic stage and they are seeking alternatives as a hedge against a severe future decline in the dollar’s value.

    That China is the main facilitator of these moves to do away with the dollar is without question; the evidence is everywhere. Here are some specific examples of the various agreements that have been between China and other nations in recent times:

    *China and Iran are creating a barter system by which Iranian oil will be exchanged for Chinese imported products. This is, quite obviously, an agreement designed to counter U.S. sanctions against Iran since China has no intention of discontinuing the importation of Iranian oil. Besides the barter system the two countries will also conduct trade using the Chinese yuan, the Iranian rial and gold.

    *China and Japan announced plans to bypass the dollar and use their own currencies in their trade relations. Discussions involving a partnership between South Korea and China to exchange their currencies also have taken place. This is a huge development as China, Japan and South Korea are the dominant economic powers in that Asian region.

    *China and Russia have, for more than a year, been conducting trade using rubles and the yuan.

    *China and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) have announced an agreement which will use the yuan for oil trades. The Chinese National Bank said that this agreement, worth around $5.5 billion, was made to “strengthen financial cooperation, to promote trade and investments, and to mutually assure regional financial stability.”

    *Russia and Iran have agreed to use rubles as a means of currency in their trades. Russia has joined China in opposing U.S. sanctions against Iran and fully intends to maintain a close relationship with Iran.

    *China will pursue bilateral trades with Russia and Malaysia using the yuan, the ruble and the ringgit, respectively.

    *The nations comprising the BRICS group (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) recently agreed at their summit meeting in Sanya, China, to establish mutual lines of credit in local currencies. This, again, is a very significant development since this group of nations represents a very powerful economic bloc going into the future.

    *The United Nations Conference on Trade and Development has stated that “the current system of currencies and capital rules which binds the world economy is not working properly and was largely responsible for the financial and economic crises.” Further that “the dollar should be replaced with a global currency.”


    http://economyincrisis.org/content/t...serve-currency
    After reading this my immediate thought was, "Could this be why Romney and Obama were talking about China manipulating it's currency?" I googled it and what came up was this. http://www.onemint.com/2009/01/26/ho...-its-currency/ The first paragraph talks about global banks and how government jumps in if their currency is threatened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiliconMagician View Post
    The United States does not go to war for petty reasons. If you are so cynical that you believe that, then maybe you have some serious mental issues that need checked out. Seriously.

    There is no shadow cabal who runs the nation behind the scenes and treats our politicians and media like puppets. That is ridiculous on its face.There is no oil conspiracy, and there is no conspiracy to stop nations from going back to a gold standard.
    Look, I understand resenting this idea because it is embraced by NWO conspiracy theorists. But you can't ignore the facts that are amounting here. To believe the United States never goes to war for petty reasons is more of a conspiracy theory than what I posted. Or maybe you haven't noticed Republicans screaming at Democrats about the unnecessary bombing of Libya and Democrats screaming at Republicans about the unnecessary war in Iraq.

    Take your time to read my entire post. Do the research. Everything there is proveable with fact. Let your first search be, "Proof Gadaffi was killing his people" Go from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodystylez View Post
    After reading this my immediate thought was, "Could this be why Romney and Obama were talking about China manipulating it's currency?" I googled it and what came up was this. http://www.onemint.com/2009/01/26/ho...-its-currency/ The first paragraph talks about global banks and how government jumps in if their currency is threatened.
    China has been reducing its US debt holdings while, in 2011, the biggest buyer of US debt was the Federal Reserve. IOW, we are buying our own debt.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...275393064.html

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english201..._131201416.htm
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    Iraq decided to switch to the gold standard, we went to war with them for false reasons. Libya decided to switch to the gold standard, we went to war with them for false reasons. Syria is switching to the gold standard, we are talking war with them (direct or indirect to overthrow the government). Iran is switching to the gold standard, we are talking war with them (over nukes that don't exist).
    Well I haven't watched your video, but I kind of doubt it. First of all, Europe buys most of Libya and Syrian oil. I think we have had an embargo with Stria for years.
    We buy little if any oil from Iran. I do remember that the government was worried that Iran had switched from the dollar to the Euro and was trying to get OPEC to follow suit. Besides, we have found so much oil in America, they saw we could be the leading oil producer in the world in just a few short years. So if we are starting wars in the Middle East over gold, it must be to help out Europe, not the US.
    Beam me up Scottie, no intelligent life down here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woogs View Post
    China has been reducing its US debt holdings while, in 2011, the biggest buyer of US debt was the Federal Reserve. IOW, we are buying our own debt.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...275393064.html

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english201..._131201416.htm
    You are making me use my noodle. This is pretty deep.
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    US predicted to be world's largest oil producer by 2017 - CSMonitor ...


    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/.../US-...s-largest-oil-...


    23 hours ago – America is expected to surpass Russia as the largest gas producer by 2015, and Saudi Arabia as the world's top oil producer by 2017. ... will come very close to achieving a previously unthinkable energy self-sufficiency. ... a continued fall in US oil imports with North America becoming a net oil exporter by ...


    As you can see, this is what I mean.
    Beam me up Scottie, no intelligent life down here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marine1 View Post
    Well I haven't watched your video, but I kind of doubt it. First of all, Europe buys most of Libya and Syrian oil. I think we have had an embargo with Stria for years.
    We buy little if any oil from Iran. I do remember that the government was worried that Iran had switched from the dollar to the Euro and was trying to get OPEC to follow suit. Besides, we have found so much oil in America, they saw we could be the leading oil producer in the world in just a few short years. So if we are starting wars in the Middle East over gold, it must be to help out Europe, not the US.
    I respect that perspective. Again I was just looking into this and have lots of questions also. But there are so many facts here it has to be taken seriously. There has always been a big hole in politics that no one could explain. But after considering this is a possibility everything meshed and made sense. I couldn't disprove any of this.
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    I don't think the Gold Standard is specifically what most of OPEC has considered. The most common alternative proposed was the Euro, but now that Europe is having financial troubles, the dollar seems safe at the moment.

    Iran is about the only major oil producer that still prefers the Euro right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marine1 View Post
    US predicted to be world's largest oil producer by 2017 - CSMonitor ...


    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/.../US-...s-largest-oil-...


    23 hours ago – America is expected to surpass Russia as the largest gas producer by 2015, and Saudi Arabia as the world's top oil producer by 2017. ... will come very close to achieving a previously unthinkable energy self-sufficiency. ... a continued fall in US oil imports with North America becoming a net oil exporter by ...


    As you can see, this is what I mean.
    Your link is down but I totally understand what you are getting at. It was one of my first thoughts too. But if OPEC is using gold for oil trading then that makes Rothschild unhappy. The argument is that Rothschild is pulling the strings on this, not sure how true that is. I haven't seen proof of that.
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    Can anyone name a Sunni controlled country that the US has taken down or is acting belligerent to?
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