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  1. Default Hamas Fire Rockets => Israel Reacts => Arabs & Useful Idiots Whine

    Seriously?

    It's pretty simple from where I'm sitting...

    Hamas, or other extremist groups on which Hamas isn't cracking down upon, is firing rockets into Israel.

    About a million Israeli citizens -- jews, muslims, christians, women, children, men, straights, gays, etc. -- had to flee into bunkers or other sorts of facilities that provided sufficient safety against the Palestine rockets.

    Israel, which can't allow such a farce to take place -- reacts in a responsible way by bombing state assets in the Gaza strip.

    War isn't pretty, it never is.

    When the main objective of Hamas is to fire rockets into Israel, at will -- the only possible parameter is that they hope they will cause as much damage as possible (material and non-material).

    I'm not interested in time tables, history or whatever.

    I think it is pretty clear for every fair-minded person to realize that Hamas here is in the wrong, and Israel has every right to react and to defend itself.

    The Israeli military objective has to be that no rockets could be fired into Israel any longer, and normal life can take up pace again.

    The civilian objective, however, has to be that Palestinians in the Gaza strip no loger support a para-political group that doesn't have their best interest at heart, to name names: Hamas.
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    Israel has launched over 200 airstrikes last night. The IDF has massed troops and armor on the border with Gaza and closed 3 roads into Gaza. 75 thousand reserves are being called up. And the morons in Hamas continue to fire rockets at Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

    I predict an invasion of Gaza within the next few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Bourne View Post
    Israel has launched over 200 airstrikes last night. The IDF has massed troops and armor on the border with Gaza and closed 3 roads into Gaza. 75 thousand reserves are being called up. And the morons in Hamas continue to fire rockets at Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

    I predict an invasion of Gaza within the next few days.
    No land invasion should happen, it will only strenghten Hamas...

    Arabs aren't the smartest people around...
    “The world is big enough to satisfy everyones needs, but will always be too small to satisfy everyones greed.” ~ Ghandi

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    Israelis `bout ready to go in an' put the hurt to Hamas...

    U.S. fears Israel-Hamas conflict escalates to ground invasion
    November 16th, 2012 - The major concern of the United States in the current Israeli-Hamas conflict is a potential Israeli ground incursion into Gaza, U.S. officials said Friday.
    That would be a disastrous escalation that could trigger a larger conflict, a senior U.S. official told CNN. "Escalation is what we are concerned about. We don't want it to escalate to the point where Israel feels it has to take additional action, specifically ground force action," the official said. Israel has some ground forces on the border and ready to act if they are called to do so, said Israel's ambassador to the United States, Michael Oren, in a conference call with reporters Friday. Israel's Cabinet on Friday authorized the call-ups of up to 75,000 reservists, prime minister's spokesman Mark Regev said. Israel's military said earlier in the day that 30,000 troops are being mobilized for a possible move into Gaza.

    So far, Israeli tank units and troops have stayed outside Gaza. But the senior U.S. official indicated while the United States unequivocally supports Israel's right to self-defense, the U.S. message right now is for Israel not to enter Gaza on the ground. "Ground forces would clearly be a major escalation," he said. The official said the worry is Israeli ground troops could lead to drawing Egypt into the conflict. "What action would Egypt take, would they move into Sinai?" he said.

    He said the assessment is that a number of other Arab nations in the region would then, at least rhetorically, join with Egypt against Israel. The official emphasized this is a U.S. worry and the strong hope is Hamas will stop its rocket attacks on Israel, thereby ending Israeli strikes. "The question also is how much Hamas wants to risk," the official said. A second official said the United States also is watching closely to see if Iran, which backs Hamas, attempts to infiltrate new fighters or weapons supplies into Gaza. Neither official would speak on the record because they were discussing sensitive national security matters.

    Daniel Ben Simon, an Israeli Knesset member not aligned with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition, said Friday that he sensed "almost an absence" from Washington, adding, "It's time for the Americans to step in." "We need the boss, and the boss is still the White House," Ben Simon said, calling U.S. officials "the only ones that can control the situation and ... talk freely" to all sides. "It seems the White House is too silent."

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    Obama warns against 'ramping up' in Gaza crisis
    Sunday, Nov. 18, 2012 — President Barack Obama said Sunday an incursion by Israel's forces into the Gaza Strip could only deepen its death toll, cautioning against an escalation even as he defended the Jewish state's right to defend itself. Obama also warned Palestinians the crisis could crush peace hopes for years.
    "Israel has every right to expect that it does not have missiles fired into its territory," Obama said at the start of a three-nation tour in Asia. "If that can be accomplished without a ramping up of military activity in Gaza, that's preferable," he said. "It's not just preferable for the people of Gaza. It's also preferable for Israelis, because if Israeli troops are in Gaza, they're much more at risk of incurring fatalities or being wounded." Obama's comments came as Israel's campaign against Hamas militants in Gaza blasted into its fifth day. Israel is at a crossroads of whether to launch a ground invasion or pursue Egyptian-led truce efforts. Obama sought to defend the U.S. ally's rights while pushing for a halt in the violence.

    Obama made his remarks during a news conference at the start of a four-day trip, a visit designed to expand the U.S. economic and military footprint in a region long dominated by China. But the developments in and around Israel illustrated the foreign policy challenges facing Obama. Even as he mounted a proactive mission in Southeast Asia, he was forced into a reactive mode to respond to conflict in the Middle East that he has been unable to help resolve.

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    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared Sunday that Israel was prepared to significantly expand its military operation in Gaza. Obama has been lobbying Netanyahu along with the leaders of Egypt and Turkey to try to halt the crisis — including stopping rocket strikes on Israel. He said Israel was justly responding to "an ever escalating number of missiles that were landing not just in Israeli territory, but in areas that are populated. And there's no country on earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders."

    Obama said Palestinians will have no chance to pursue their own state and a lasting peace with Israel as long as rockets are fired into Israel. He said he hoped for a clearer process over the next 48 hours — showing how much the Mideast conflict had intruded on his diplomatic mission to Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Bourne View Post
    Israel has launched over 200 airstrikes last night. The IDF has massed troops and armor on the border with Gaza and closed 3 roads into Gaza. 75 thousand reserves are being called up. And the morons in Hamas continue to fire rockets at Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
    It's a mistake to assume Hamas's goals have any relation to the welfare of the Palestinian people.

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    Granny says, "Dat's right - dey keep flingin' dem missiles at Israel...

    CNN Poll: 57% of Americans say Israeli attacks in Gaza are justified
    November 19th, 2012 - A majority of Americans say that Israel's current military strikes against Gaza are justified, according to a new national survey.
    A CNN/ORC International poll released Monday indicates that 57% of the public says Israel is justified in taking military action in Gaza against Hamas, with one in four saying the attacks are unjustified. The fighting began last week with rocket attacks into Israel from Gaza, to which Israel responded with an aerial offensive. Palestinian emergency services said Monday that nearly 100 people have been killed in Gaza, with around 750 injured. The Israel Defense Forces said three people in Israel have been killed, with nearly 70 injured.

    The fighting has raised fears of a widening conflict, and the possibility of a repeat of Israel's 2008 invasion of Gaza following similar rocket attacks by Hamas into Israel. "Although most Americans think the Israeli actions are justified, there are key segments of the public who don't necessarily feel that way," said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Only four in ten Democrats think the Israeli actions in Gaza are justified, compared to 74% of Republicans and 59% of independents. Support for Israel's military action is 13 points higher among men than among women, and 15 points higher among older Americans than among younger Americans."

    According to the survey, nearly six in ten say their sympathies are with the Israelis, with 13% saying they side more with the Palestinians and 11% saying their sympathies are with neither side in the conflict. "That's nothing new," added Holland. "The number of Americans who sympathize more with the Palestinians has never been higher than 18% since the question was first asked in 1988. Sympathies for Israel have sometimes dipped below 50%, but have been over that mark for the past eight years."

    The CNN poll was conducted by ORC International from November 16-18, with 1,023 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points.

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    Israel bombing kills militant in Gaza Strip
    Nov 19,`12 -- Israeli aircraft struck crowded areas in the Gaza Strip and killed a senior militant with a missile strike on a media center Monday, driving up the Palestinian death toll to 100, as Israel broadened its targets in the 6-day-old offensive meant to quell Hamas rocket fire on Israel.
    Escalating its bombing campaign over the weekend, Israel began attacking homes of activists in Hamas, the Islamic militant group that rules Gaza. These attacks have led to a sharp spike in civilian casualties, killing 24 civilians in just under two days and doubling the number of civilians killed in the conflict, a Gaza health official said. The rising toll came as Egyptian-led efforts to mediate a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas got into gear. While Israel and Hamas were far apart in their demands, both sides said they were open to a diplomatic solution - and prepared for further escalation if that failed.

    The leader of Hamas took a tough stance, rejecting Israel's demands that the militant group stop its rocket fire. Instead, Khaled Mashaal said, Israel must meet Hamas' demands for a lifting of the blockade of Gaza. "We don't accept Israeli conditions because it is the aggressor," he told reporters in Egypt. "We want a cease-fire along with meeting our demands." An Israeli official said Israel hoped to find a diplomatic solution to the crisis as well and signaled Egypt was likely to play a key role in enforcing any truce. `'We prefer the diplomatic solution if it's possible. If we see it's not going to bear fruit, we can escalate," he said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive diplomatic efforts under way. The official said Israel doesn't want a "quick fix" that will result in renewed fighting months down the road. Instead, Israel wants "international guarantees" that Hamas will not rearm or use Egypt's neighboring Sinai peninsula for militant activity.

    Overall, the offensive that began Wednesday killed 100 Palestinians, including 53 civilians, and wounded some 840 people, including 225 children, Gaza heath official Ashraf al-Kidra said. On the Israeli side, three civilians have died from Palestinian rocket fire and dozens have been wounded. A rocket-defense system has intercepted hundreds of rockets bound for populated areas. Hamas fighters have fired more than 1,000 rockets into Israel in the current round of fighting, including 95 on Monday, among them one that hit an empty school in the coastal city of Ashkelon. Israeli police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said 29 rockets were intercepted by the Iron Dome anti-missile battery. Rockets landed in open areas of Beersheva, Ashdod, Ashkelon, and caused damage in a number of areas.

    Schools in southern Israel have been closed since the start of the offensive on Wednesday, and large police units deployed in the area to respond to any potential damage and injuries from rockets. A poll published in the Haaretz daily on Monday showed widespread support in Israel for the offensive. It said that 84 percent of the public supports the operation, with 12 percent opposed. At the same time, it said just 30 percent of the public supports a ground invasion of Gaza. The poll, conducted by the Dialog agency, surveyed 520 people and had a margin of error of 4.4 percentage points. In Monday's violence, an Israeli airstrike on a high-rise building in Gaza City killed Ramez Harb, a senior figure in Islamic Jihad's military wing, the Al Quds Brigades, the group said in a text message to reporters. A number of foreign and local news organizations have offices in the building, which was also struck on Sunday. A passer-by was also killed, medics said.

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    The OP is forgetting about the thousands of woman and children that have been murdered by Israeli soldiers as their "relocate" Muslims so Israeli settlers can steal their homes.
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    The bodies of four children wrapped in Palestinian flags were carried above a huge crowd from the rubble of their home, destroyed in an Israeli air strike, to their graves on Monday amid mounting anger over the sharply rising toll of civilians in the six-day-old war in Gaza.

    Bulldozers, which were clearing concrete and twisted metal from the site of the Dalou family's home in the hope of finding two bodies still trapped beneath the ruins, stopped work to allow the funeral procession to pass.

    "Do these children look like terrorists?" asked grief-stricken relatives and neighbours of the dead. Eight members of the Dalou family, including four children aged between one and seven, were killed when a missile struck their three-storey home at around 2.30pm on Sunday. Two family members are still missing, and two neighbours were also killed.


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/midd...re-idf-bombing
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    102 dead Palestinians including children, babies and women all named here.

    http://palestinefrommyeyes.wordpress...tacks-on-gaza/

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    Four dead Palestinian children murdered by Israel


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