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Old 03-06-2008, 12:26 PM
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That would be because "pro-choice" doesn't mean "pro-abortion." Just like "agnostic" doesn't mean "atheist" or "antireligion."
At least for the feminazi core of the "pro-choice", it definitely means pro-abortion meaning wanting abortions to take place. Why else would they militantly oppose such things as waiting periods and pre-abortion required consultation to explain especially to young pregnant women medically what they are about to do? Feminazis hate fetuses because babies are seen by them as the key thing that has stopped women from having jobs, careers, political power, etc.

For that feminazi core, which is also the leadersip of the "pro-choice" movement, the only bad abortion truly is the one which doesn't happen.
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Why else would they militantly oppose such things as waiting periods and pre-abortion required consultation to explain especially to young pregnant women medically what they are about to do?
These are equivalent to gun control regulations that are short of banning... such as waiting periods and classes.
Are you suggesting that the anti-gun control people who are against these kinds of laws are not out to increase choice of gun ownership... but rather to increase the number of guns out there?!
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That's the difference between big "D" and little "d". The Democrats picked a name that has other meanings, one of which is, indeed, the idea of "social equality." The reference is to "social democracy" -- in which a socialist government is established through democratic means.



I'm pretty sure you don't believe in social equality. You probably believe in equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.



That would be because "pro-choice" doesn't mean "pro-abortion." Just like "agnostic" doesn't mean "atheist" or "antireligion."



Particularly if viewed through a partisan glass. You consider it a slight that the definition for "republican" doesn't include a concept that you oppose.

You seem to have a reasonable and logical explaination for everything and for that I admire you. What is the definition of "splitting hairs"?
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At least for the feminazi core of the "pro-choice", it definitely means pro-abortion meaning wanting abortions to take place. Why else would they militantly oppose such things as waiting periods and pre-abortion required consultation to explain especially to young pregnant women medically what they are about to do?
Because many of those proposals are thinly disguised pro-life propaganda efforts.

The former infantalizes women by presuming they don't know what they're doing and need a "cooling off" period to rethink. Opposing that is really quite a conservative position.

The latter tends to involve lurid descriptions of possible complications and graphic photos of late-term aborted fetuses. That's not "counseling."

Further, they're not saying women shouldn't be counseled; they're saying the state has no business mandating what a physician should say and how they should say it. That's between the woman and her doctor. It, too, is really quite a conservative position.

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Feminazis hate fetuses because babies are seen by them as the key thing that has stopped women from having jobs, careers, political power, etc.
Uh-huh. Please point me to any mainstream source that advocates abortion as a way of preventing babies from getting in the way of professional success. If you do manage to find someone (anything is possible, I guess), be sure to highlight where this belief is anything other than their personal opinion. One can say "I would always have an abortion if I got pregnant" and still be pro-choice as long as they're not trying to force other people to have abortions.

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For that feminazi core, which is also the leadersip of the "pro-choice" movement, the only bad abortion truly is the one which doesn't happen.
Uh-huh. All this reveals is your own extreme bias. You honestly believe that there are people who believe abortions are an absolute good, and thus we should have more of them simply because more is better?

I can see population-control fanatics taking that position. But such a position has very little to do with abortion specifically.
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You seem to have a reasonable and logical explaination for everything
That might be because, in this case, there *is* a reasonable and logical explanation.

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Which hairs do you think I'm splitting?
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That would be because "pro-choice" doesn't mean "pro-abortion." Just like "agnostic" doesn't mean "atheist" or "antireligion."
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pro-choice

favoring the legalization of abortion

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pro-abortion

favoring the legalization of abortion

You're right, they don't mean the same thing!
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I definitely think you've found a money-maker here. I suggest you get a million copies published and sell them.
I would buy it. At least then I might understand what they are talking about
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pro-choice

favoring the legalization of abortion

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pro-abortion

favoring the legalization of abortion

You're right, they don't mean the same thing!
That's pretty funny. I disagree with that usage. There is a distinct, logically evident difference in meaning between thinking abortion should be legal and thinking abortion is a great thing.
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So, if you favor something being legal that automatically means you are encouraging people to do it? That's sort of an interesting position. Because I could make quite a long list of things that are legal, yet not anything I would encourage.
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Pro-Life is incorrect.


Most Pro-Lifers are only Pro-Some-Life or Pro-Unborn-Life.
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