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Old 03-09-2008, 07:42 PM
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Default Do all cons equate socialism and communism?

Do all of you actually believe they are the two words mean exactly the same thing?

Or are can some of you actually discern some shading of gray?

If there are indeed a few conservatives here that can that see shades other than than pure white (absolutely pure capitalism) or pitch black (absolutely pure communism) then on what area(s) do you see where some level of socialism (even if just a small amount) is desirable?

On what area(s) do you think excessive capitalism is likely to be troublesome?
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Do all of you actually believe they are the two words mean exactly the same thing?

Or are can some of you actually discern some shading of gray?

If there are indeed a few conservatives here that can that see shades other than than pure white (absolutely pure capitalism) or pitch black (absolutely pure communism) then on what area(s) do you see where some level of socialism (even if just a small amount) is desirable?

On what area(s) do you think excessive capitalism is likely to be troublesome?
I wonder what value you see in the facade of these shades? Do you feel that the tyranny of communism was offset be the highminded litany of secular individual rights, which were wholly absent of meaning... but set for all to read in the constitution of the Soviet Union?

Excessive capitalism... Excessive freedom... Isn't it wild? "Too much of anything is a bad thing, right? Even freedom... SO a little tryany can't be bad..."

Again friends, it's leftists trying to rationalize why they have to endure all this responsibility. "Can't they give just a little to government?"
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Greed, I'm rusty on this. I thought Socialism was the theory, Communism was the authorative execution; love to know what your definitions are.

Publius, when I think of excessive Capitalism I picture earlier industrial england; no worker rights, poor pay, terrible conditions etc- I see shades of socialism now to be things like the minimum wage and basic standards. Freedom barely comes into that for me, freedom is the reign primarily of Democracy, not the economy of that democracy.
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I know there is a difference but could honestly care less. If calling socialists communists tars and feathers the idea enough that it never rears it's ugly head here then I am all for it.
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Sounding kinda Orwellian there Rebellion. Double-plus job.
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Do all of you actually believe they are the two words mean exactly the same thing?
No, they don't mean the same thing. But they are very similar.

You can say that "red" and "maroon" aren't the same thing. But from a distance its hard to tell them apart.
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Liberal, progressive, commie, socialist, enlightened, democrat, nazi....all the same.
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I think most conservatives consider socialism something of a stepping stone, and consider both to be very bad things.

When you get down to it I think most replublicans (and many conservatives) support a mixed economy. However most regard it as having plenty of not to much socialism mixed in, and so are up in arms against further tilts in that direction.
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Inspirational Billy-bob, keep eliminating those words. May I suggest calling them all thoughtcrime?
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Sounding kinda Orwellian there Rebellion. Double-plus job.
Orwellian? Exaggerate much?
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