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Old 04-10-2008, 06:45 PM
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No, he didn't, and neither did you. He made a pretty speech indicating his moral disapproval of the truth, but did not contradict any of the mentioned facts or thesis in any way.
What exactly is your thesis, and what facts did you show? Looking over your post, I see no facts or links to sources. I'm really dumb, so could you please explain for me?
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Where do Iranians go for general news online? For example the US has www.cnn.com the UK has www.bbc.com And there are others as well.

Ideally the source would have an English option.

Also what do you think of their bias or lack therof?
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Where do Iranians go for general news online? For example the US has www.cnn.com the UK has www.bbc.com And there are others as well.

Ideally the source would have an English option.

Also what do you think of their bias or lack therof?
iranian people don't much get online for news or political stuff. they rely on domestic TV & foreign satellite Persian TVs (VOA for example). but there are some sites that are acting same as domestic TV.

www.isna.ir
www.irna.ir
www.farsnews.com
www.irib.ir (TV's site)

www.presstv.com (quite unbiased)
www.aftab.ir (quite unbiased)

www.tabnak.ir (gov't critic)
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Perham, this has been the best thread on this forum. i thank you for that and hope you will continue to overlook some of the rudeness directed your way.

one of the statements attributed to ahmadinejad has caused quite a commotion is israel and the west:
he was addressing a conference entitled The World without Zionism and his comments were reported by the Iranian state news agency Irna.
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" As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map"
he said, referring to Iran's late revolutionary leader, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4378948.stm

the general perception of what he said is accepted to be a desire for the literal destruction of israel

however, others have said the translation was not accurate, and that his words actually expressed a desire for an end of the present israeli regime/government

no doubt you appreciate the substantial difference between those two interpertations. you are uniquely positioned to offer us some clarity on this matter. do you believe he intended to mean that israel should literally be eliminated or was he referring only to the present governing entity?
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www.presstv.com (quite unbiased)
Thanks. That one is in English so it's open to the world.

Though I think you might be confused on what "bias" means. Outright lying and such go beyond bias. Bias means a slant on how the truth is present and which truths are presented.

That sight has a rather obvious bias.

Though it at least seems like it's truthful.

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Thanks. That one is in English so it's open to the world.

Though I think you might be confused on what "bias" means. Outright lying and such go beyond bias. Bias means a slant on how the truth is present and which truths are presented.

That sight has a rather obvious bias.

Though it at least seems like it's truthful.
well, English is not my mother tongue!
all of them have English pages. you should click on a link that is mostly on the top of the page.
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http://www.isna.ir/Main/Default.aspx?Lang=E
http://english.farsnews.com/
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Interesting.

On thing that sticks out about all those sites is they have "nuclear" sections. So yeah I guess it is a pretty huge deal over there.

Actually aperantly you have a holiday
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8701200634

Did you have a party or something?
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Perham, this has been the best thread on this forum. i thank you for that and hope you will continue to overlook some of the rudeness directed your way.
thanks. seeing guys like you keeps me encouraged to keep it up.

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no doubt you appreciate the substantial difference between those two interpertations. you are uniquely positioned to offer us some clarity on this matter. do you believe he intended to mean that israel should literally be eliminated or was he referring only to the present governing entity?
he meant the Israeli regime, not the Israeli people. he suggested to move them somewhere else in the world.
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Interesting.

On thing that sticks out about all those sites is they have "nuclear" sections. So yeah I guess it is a pretty huge deal over there.

Actually aperantly you have a holiday
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8701200634

Did you have a party or something?
me personally? no. but I heard that they gave cakes and milk inside the university. that's funny!!
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