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1. we elect the mujtahids, they elect the supreme leader. unlike what you think, the country doesn't run on supreme leader's ideas. it more runs on the government elected by people. the supreme leader HAS the right to interfere everything, but he doesn't do it normally. it happened once or twice during my whole lifetime. I believe we have democracy here, at least, unofficially. our people are so active in politics, they can't stand a dictator or totalitarian government.
That is a distortion - the people only get to vote on a list of mujtahids APPROVED BY THE GOVERNMENT, it's NOT democratic. Furthermore, the president can only be elected from nominees approved by the council of guardians, who in turn are appointed by the Supreme Leader. You have a sham democracy. The Supreme Leader doesn't have to interfere, if everyone in government has been either directly or indirectly approved by him.

Neither one of those posts answered the question of why you are generating enriched uranium which you claim is only for energy, when you are sitting on an ocean of oil.
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Old 03-11-2008, 02:11 PM
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perham, how do the people of iran feel about the possibility of war with the usa?
I believe we can solve the issues in a more civilized way. we had communicated with each other on the iraq's issue, why can't we communicate to solve all issues?
a war is unlikely soon, but if this hostility between the two government continues, sooner or later it would cause a bloody war. I think we as both nations, should stop our governments to do so. we sure can forget the past. the future would be bright that way.
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thanks for the answer.

are the people of iran happy with their government or would they like a change? and if they would like change, what kind of change would it be?
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do you know what the above statement means? there is no "mostly unique;" thats like saying "sometimes always," its an oxymoron - its either one or the other.
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Old 03-11-2008, 02:24 PM
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That is a distortion - the people only get to vote on a list of mujtahids APPROVED BY THE GOVERNMENT, it's NOT democratic. Furthermore, the president can only be elected from nominees approved by the council of guardians, who in turn are appointed by the Supreme Leader. You have a sham democracy.
I feel I can form the future of my country with my vote. this is my meaning of democracy. If that was the case, the second of Khordad wouldn't happen. I voted on 1380 (2001) elections in favor of FP. Khatami for my first vote. I saw the great effect it had on country. current freedom comes from that government. I believe we can do it again, we can get back to Khatami's Ideals again by electing the right guy at next elections. be sure that if I feel that I can't change the future of my country or my vote is going to be wasted, I won't sit a moment. I will FIGHT for my ideals and that's how it should be.

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Neither one of those posts answered the question of why you are generating enriched uranium which you claim is only for energy, when you are sitting on an ocean of oil.
I'm not a politician nor an economist, I just say what I believe. I believe we should get this right, right now, or we can't get it ever again. I described this issue some where in this forum, I can't find it yet. we have not enough refinery plants needed for inside usage, we were on the state of lacking natural gas for home usage this winter and n.gas couldn't supply inside needs. we sure need more power plants, and it's better to use our own uranium supplies. that's all I know.
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That is a distortion - the people only get to vote on a list of mujtahids APPROVED BY THE GOVERNMENT, it's NOT democratic. Furthermore, the president can only be elected from nominees approved by the council of guardians, who in turn are appointed by the Supreme Leader. You have a sham democracy. The Supreme Leader doesn't have to interfere, if everyone in government has been either directly or indirectly approved by him.



Neither one of those posts answered the question of why you are generating enriched uranium which you claim is only for energy, when you are sitting on an ocean of oil.

Little tip for you blade, oil isn't used to generate electricity, nuclear power is. Now that said, I believe they obviously want nuclear weapons! But, as has always been the case since 1945, nuclear weapons are used as deterrents to war. They don't make war more likely.
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thanks for the answer.

are the people of iran happy with their government or would they like a change? and if they would like change, what kind of change would it be?
not happy right now. I described it there:
Iran calls new UN sanctions 'worthless'
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Little tip for you blade, oil isn't used to generate electricity, nuclear power is. Now that said, I believe they obviously want nuclear weapons! But, as has always been the case since 1945, nuclear weapons are used as deterrents to war. They don't make war more likely.
That's a red herring...power plants generate electricity which is powered by oil. And oil is far FAR cheaper for Iran (and more abundant) than nuclear power. Them using it makes no sense.
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That's a red herring...power plants generate electricity which is powered by oil. And oil is far FAR cheaper for Iran (and more abundant) than nuclear power. Them using it makes no sense.
What oil power plants do you know of? Coal, Natural Gas, nuclear, I have never heard of an oil power plant!! Maybe they exist, but not to my knowledge!

Also I said that I do think they want nuclear weapons!!
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What oil power plants do you know of? Coal, Natural Gas, nuclear, I have never heard of an oil power plant!! Maybe they exist, but not to my knowledge!

Also I said that I do think they want nuclear weapons!!
They're all over the globe, Saudi Arabia has two. Gas turbine plants can run on natural gas or oil. As do internal combustion used in smaller plants.
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Most people think they want nuclear weapons but we'd just be wasting space to talk about it in this thread. I think Perham has given us all he's got on the subject, start a new thread if you really feel like it.

Seriously though, despite IBs antagonism there still are laws that are enforced against fraternization and innapropriate dress right?

I mean you couldn't just horse around like this out in the middle of the street could you?


And stoning is still possible right? I was under the impression it has been very rare in the last five or so years, but still happens or at least could happen.

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