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i.beletesri · #61 (**permalink**) 03-11-2008, 04:35 PM

'Adultery' sisters to be Stoned to Death in Iran
Feb 5, 2008

Two Iranian sisters convicted of adultery face being stoned to death after the supreme court upheld death sentences against them, Iranian media have reported.

The two sisters were found guilty of adultery - a capital crime in Iran - after the husband of one of the pair presented a video showing them in the company of other men while he was away.

The penal court of Teheran province had already sentenced the sisters, identified only as Zohreh, 27, and Azar, to stoning, the newspaper said.

The Etemad newspaper quoted Jabbar Solati, their lawyer, as saying that the sisters had initially been tried for "illegal relations" and had received 99 lashes. However, they were convicted of "adultery" in a Second trial for the Same incident.

The pair admitted they were in the video but argued there was no adultery as no scene on the video showed them engaged in a sexual act.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...5/wiran205.xml

justabubba · #62 (**permalink**) 03-11-2008, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i.beletesri

'Adultery' sisters to be Stoned to Death in Iran
Feb 5, 2008

Two Iranian sisters convicted of adultery face being stoned to death after the supreme court upheld death sentences against them, Iranian media have reported.

The two sisters were found guilty of adultery - a capital crime in Iran - after the husband of one of the pair presented a video showing them in the company of other men while he was away.

The penal court of Teheran province had already sentenced the sisters, identified only as Zohreh, 27, and Azar, to stoning, the newspaper said.

The Etemad newspaper quoted Jabbar Solati, their lawyer, as saying that the sisters had initially been tried for "illegal relations" and had received 99 lashes. However, they were convicted of "adultery" in a Second trial for the Same incident.

The pair admitted they were in the video but argued there was no adultery as no scene on the video showed them engaged in a sexual act.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...5/wiran205.xml

this is from the USA:

Quote:

The 100 exonerated

•

100 innocent people from 24 states have been exonerated from death row since

1972. Together they have spent 800 years combined on death row.
•

The average number of years that these 100 spent on death row was 8 years.

•

Many of them were exonerated through channels outside the court system. Their

release does not prove that the system is working. Meanwhile, victims family
members suffer while the real killers remain at large and tax dollars are wasted,
failing citizens, the courts, and the justice system.
•

The 100th exoneration represents only the cases that we know about. We don’t

know how many other innocent people are on death row or have already been
executed.
How Do Innocent People Get Sentenced to Death?
•

Inadequate Legal Representation

More than 90% of prisoners now on death row were too poor to hire their own
attorneys. Poor defendants have been represented by attorneys who had been
suspended or disbarred, who were just out of law school, or even those who were
drunk or asleep during court proceedings.
•

Misconduct by Police and Prosecutors

In many cases that have resulted in exonerations or reversals, the state

withheld

evidence that would have ruled out their primary suspect.
•

Eyewitness Testimony

People’s ability to remember what they saw is far shakier than commonly believed.
Many experts argue that eyewitness misidentification plays a part in as many
wrongful convictions as all other errors combined.
•

Shoddy or Fraudulent Science

Police scientists have misidentified evidence, testified to evidence that doesn’t
exist, or made other gross errors that sent innocent people to prison. Prosecutors
continue to use discredited scientific techniques like hair analysis to sway jurors.
•

Jailhouse Snitch Testimony

Jailhouse informants are offered reduced sentences or special favors in exchange
for a statement that the defendant “confessed” to them while in jail. Often the jury
never learns that the snitch received a deal in exchange for the testimony.
•

Racial bias

Eyewitnesses are more likely to misidentify a suspect of a different race. Racial
prejudice may also predispose a jury to convict a minority defendant, even without
solid evidence. For more information on how race affects the death penalty, see
Equal Justice USA’s pamphlet, How Racism Riddles the U.S. Death Penalty.
•

Limitations on the Courts

Most states have time limits as short as 21 or 30 days on presenting

new evidence
in court even if it could prove a prisoner’s innocence.

http://www.quixote.org/ej/100th/talking_points.pdf
my, how much more civilized we are

i.beletesri · #63 (**permalink**) 03-11-2008, 04:48 PM

Doncha love idiotic comparisons and apologism..

How about this?

Domestic Terror in Iran

Answer? ... Much more civilized.

Tedminator · #64 (**permalink**) 03-15-2008, 01:18 AM

Hey Perham, how'd your election?

Perham · #65 (**permalink**) 03-15-2008, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedminator

Hey Perham, how'd your election?

nice! reformists are in front, we had near 70% participation rate that is a record!
we'll see changes soon.

http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/men...8877175303.htm
http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/431181

in current conditions, there's little chance for Ahmadinejad to win 2009 elections.

Tedminator · #66 (**permalink**) 03-15-2008, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perham

nice! reformists are in front, we had near 70% participation rate that is a record!
we'll see changes soon.

http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/men...8877175303.htm
http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/431181

in current conditions, there's little chance for Ahmadinejad to win 2009 elections.

They are??

huh. Last reports I've read (many hours ago) said turn out was really low and the conservatives are winning most of the seats.

Perham · #67 (**permalink**) 03-15-2008, 02:10 AM

currently, the news is confused somehow. we should wait.

Voltaire · #68 (**permalink**) 04-05-2008, 12:38 PM

I don't understand how Iran can become a democracy when the Ayatollah has just as much power as elected officials?

Any ideas?

Perham · #69 (**permalink**) 04-05-2008, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voltaire

I don't understand how Iran can become a democracy when the Ayatollah has just as much power as elected officials?

Any ideas?

I actually accept that it's an oligarchy. I hope we can make it become democracy. (although I think that democracy has it's weaknesses, for example: Ahmadinejad is elected democratically)

moe1974 · #70 (**permalink**) 04-06-2008, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perham

I actually accept that it's an oligarchy. I hope we can make it become democracy. (although I think that democracy has it's weaknesses, for example: Ahmadinejad is elected democratically)

If america attacks will you join the army and fight, and how do your friends feel about this?
Hopefully this does not happen
Thanks for giving your time and answer.

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