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    While you're busy laughing, I assume you are fully prepared to debunk the claims the article has set forth as it's own version of the truth. Since this source is laughable, and until you debunk this laughable source, I will join in with you on the laugh. But only to laugh at you, not with you.



    Since the truth is an affirmative defense against libel claims, why then would any website need to hide who they really are?
    Oh yeah, the article is filled with nonsense. They want less corporate control through government, and more government control, not realizing it is the government control that leads to these problems always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RtWngaFraud View Post
    Total and complete nonsense.



    Funny thing. Had Easter dinner at a relative's house. Total republican household. Listened to them whine about Obama over and over. One said "The government has no business being involved in healthcare". Long story short, I joined in and the conversation became a bit "heated". These folks don't want government involved etc,etc (standard right wing rhetoric). The three involved in the conversation insisting the government get dis-involved are just a touch hypocritical (again, standard right wing mentality) cause, one retired working for the city, the son works for the city (got his job with dad's "connections"), and the third works for the state. All government employees. ROFL!!! You couldn't make this crap up!

    I hate republicans.
    I have relatives rattling off the same nonsense, while enjoying medicare, medicaid, and S.S. And couldn't survive without it. And when you hold their feet to the fire by asking them exactly how did Obama ruin America? They can't give a definitive answer. Or, how is it that they hate Obamacare but know nothing about it while it is ruining their lives, except that it's not. You feel like sometimes you're on an island living with a bunch of ignorant cave dwellers, and they happen to be your relatives.
    "With our limited access the secrets of nature and you will find that, behind all the discernible concatenations, there remains something subtle, intangible, and inexplicable. Veneration for this force beyond anything that we can comprehend is my religion. To the extent I am in fact religious." - Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwk View Post
    I have relatives rattling off the same nonsense, while enjoying medicare, medicaid, and S.S. And couldn't survive without it. And when you hold their feet to the fire by asking them exactly how did Obama ruin America? They can't give a definitive answer. Or, how is it that they hate Obamacare but know nothing about it while it is ruining their lives, except that it's not. You feel like sometimes you're on an island living with a bunch of ignorant cave dwellers, and they happen to be your relatives.
    Yup. I would have gone a bit further with the conversation but things were getting too heated and the rest of the family seemed a bit on edge. They're the typical right wing supporter though, and I guess it's silly to argue with them but, I did..one time. We both kinda swore off discussing politics in the future. I guess we both lost a little respect for each other though. Nice people but really ignorant politically, but then, so is most of the public. Oh well. What are ya gonna do?
    Last edited by RtWngaFraud; Apr 02 2013 at 03:44 PM.

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    What a fine insular outlook and overgeneralized personal prejudice you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwk View Post
    I have relatives rattling off the same nonsense, while enjoying medicare, medicaid, and S.S. And couldn't survive without it. And when you hold their feet to the fire by asking them exactly how did Obama ruin America? They can't give a definitive answer. Or, how is it that they hate Obamacare but know nothing about it while it is ruining their lives, except that it's not. You feel like sometimes you're on an island living with a bunch of ignorant cave dwellers, and they happen to be your relatives.
    Who paid for Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid? If it was those same people, they would have way more cash on hand if they bought private market retirement, health insurance and disability insurance. But that is government, always stealing! They know they can pretend that they "give it to the people" and someone will believe them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RtWngaFraud View Post
    Yup. I would have gone a bit further with the conversation but things were getting too heated and the rest of the family seemed a bit on edge. They're the typical right wing supporter though, and I guess it's silly to argue with them but, I did..one time. We both kinda swore off discussing politics in the future. I guess we both lost a little respect for each other though. Nice people but really ignorant politically, but then, so is most of the public. Oh well. What are ya gonna do?
    Many people who work in government now could be working in the private sector if government didn't monopolize certain industries. Like education where it fails students despite mountains of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwk View Post
    And when you hold their feet to the fire by asking them exactly how did Obama ruin America? They can't give a definitive answer.
    The man claimed he'd cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term. It's higher now than it was when he took office. Do the math on what we now owe and tell me how long it will take to pay that back.
    Liberalism - (noun) - The belief that feelings trump facts, reason, and logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by RtWngaFraud View Post
    Yup. I would have gone a bit further with the conversation but things were getting too heated and the rest of the family seemed a bit on edge. They're the typical right wing supporter though, and I guess it's silly to argue with them but, I did..one time. We both kinda swore off discussing politics in the future. I guess we both lost a little respect for each other though. Nice people but really ignorant politically, but then, so is most of the public. Oh well. What are ya gonna do?
    Lol! You have a great dry sense of humor even though I know your post was serious. And to make me laugh, may not have been your intention. But it did I think, because I relate to the same thing.Your right though, what are you going to do? I just assumed everyone could see a forest. I just never figured the trees would get in the way.
    "With our limited access the secrets of nature and you will find that, behind all the discernible concatenations, there remains something subtle, intangible, and inexplicable. Veneration for this force beyond anything that we can comprehend is my religion. To the extent I am in fact religious." - Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwk View Post
    While you're busy laughing, I assume you are fully prepared to debunk the claims the article has set forth as it's own version of the truth. Since this source is laughable, and until you debunk this laughable source, I will join in with you on the laugh. But only to laugh at you, not with you.
    Debunk? From an anonymous kook blog, why? If what they were saying was the truth they wouldn't have to hide their real identity. You can believe what ever phony baloney stories you want like..............

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    It's on the internet it must be true! Some folks will believe ANYTHING!
    Last edited by Professor Peabody; Apr 02 2013 at 04:58 PM.
    Would the IRS accept the excuse YOUR hard drive crashed 10 days after receiving an audit notice, so you can't supply the information they're asking for? Would they just drop it and go away? Why should they be held to any less of a standard they set for us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmayo View Post
    Who paid for Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid? If it was those same people, they would have way more cash on hand if they bought private market retirement, health insurance and disability insurance. But that is government, always stealing! They know they can pretend that they "give it to the people" and someone will believe them.

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    Many people who work in government now could be working in the private sector if government didn't monopolize certain industries. Like education where it fails students despite mountains of money.
    And depending on what private market retirement fund you are talking about, many people lost everything they put into the private fund. If you do a little math, losing everything from private markets versus collecting a S.S. check every month, doesn't sound so much like stealing to me. And disability insurance, what a joke. I have a friend right now that needed to file a claim for a policy he had for twenty years for a site specific job, and he's taking them to court right now because of non-payment. He can no longer do that particular job because of a medical problem and they're giving him the run around. Private is for one thing; profit. Which is fine. And some do create jobs. But their focus has never been job creation. Just profit for the company. This guy I'm talking about worked for a private company, and was let go because of medical reasons, collected unemployment, thanks to the government, and now that the unemployment has run out, the private insurance won't pay. And because of the illness, his private company flushed him down the toilet because it wasn't profitable to keep him. Is this the private sector prosperity you are talking about?

    I think next time I'll ask my friend if the government pretended to give him an unemployment check when he needed it, or did the private sector just pretend to let him go. I wonder which one helped him out the most?
    "With our limited access the secrets of nature and you will find that, behind all the discernible concatenations, there remains something subtle, intangible, and inexplicable. Veneration for this force beyond anything that we can comprehend is my religion. To the extent I am in fact religious." - Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Peabody View Post
    Debunk? From an anonymous kook blog, why? If what they were saying was the truth they wouldn't have to hide their real identity. You can believe what ever phony baloney stories you want like..............

    OBAMA JOINS NRA



    It's on the internet it must be true! Some folks will believe ANYTHING!
    So you plead no contest. I new you were full of it.
    "With our limited access the secrets of nature and you will find that, behind all the discernible concatenations, there remains something subtle, intangible, and inexplicable. Veneration for this force beyond anything that we can comprehend is my religion. To the extent I am in fact religious." - Albert Einstein

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