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Old 03-16-2008, 07:03 PM
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Default Today is the final straw. Clinton has destroyed her future in Democratic politics.

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Mon Feb-25-08 07:29 PM. Original message.

Today is the final straw. Clinton has destroyed her future in Democratic politics.
Advertisements [?]Voting for the war. Voting against banning land mines. Against banning cluster bombing of civilians. Torture. Kyl-Lieberman.

Race-baiting in the south. Bashing the caucus system. Trying to disenfranchise college students in Iowa. Dismissing red-state Democrats. Talking about stealing the election using party insiders to control the nomination. Mocking and denigrating those who choose to hope, and to try bringing new ideas and new participants into the political system.

Smears, lies, attacks, and now the ultimate straw, trying to use xenophobia and racism to secure victory riding on the back of bigotry and hatred.

Hillary Clinton has done more than lose the Democratic nomination: she's destroyed her future in Democratic politics. There was a time when, if she'd fought well and gracefully accepted the decision of the voters, she could easily have looked forward to a position of Senate Majority Leader, a governorship, or almost anything else she chose.

Now, she's going to go down in history as having tried to destroy our future candidate for president with scorched earth politics: if I can't have it, no one can. It's the exact same thing that Bush and Karl Rove employed in 2000 against John McCain--no tactic is too underhanded, no smear too vile, no action so disgusting that their conscience would prevent them rom doing it.

There was a time when I stood in front of Clinton over her war vote, Kyl-Lieberman, etcetera, teling my fellow DUers that yes, I disagree, but it's not as bad as all that.

But this is well beyond the simple facts of distasteful political compromise. This is vile behavior on a scale rarely seen even among Republicans, combined with a total self-centeredness that says it's really all about taking and holding power, not about the people. That's not the way Democrats are supposed to operate.

Considering her record, I no longer want Hillary Clinton representing me, either as a Democrat or as a citizen of the state of New York.
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in this next election people are either going to have to choose death and destruction of both the economy and iraq, or racial hate, sexual discrimination and limpwristed over over regulating.

good job america, you've picked the worst candidates to run for office >.>
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Intresting read...Would be nice to have the link to the blog's post though.
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That would be a real shame. If the US chose three bad Presidents in a row. A terrible shame and honestly a true testament to our country.
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I agree with everything in the opening post, but isn't that how politicians have acted for... well, forever? Let's face it, as a rule, politicians are not the best examples of morality.
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I agree with everything in the opening post, but isn't that how politicians have acted for... well, forever? Let's face it, as a rule, politicians are not the best examples of morality.
No, it isn't how things operate in the public sector. In actuality, those techniques are used for the backdoor politiking. The public shouldn't see this sort of thing, it leads to distrust in government. On the other hand I can finally say with justification, we've entered another Gilded Age.
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Considering her record, I no longer want Hillary Clinton representing me, either as a Democrat or as a citizen of the state of New York.
I wouldn't either.
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I agree with everything in the opening post, but isn't that how politicians have acted for... well, forever? Let's face it, as a rule, politicians are not the best examples of morality.
They should be. Thats the point. We've let democracy trail in the dust though for a while now, so its not too surprising. We can't let them have unimportant mistakes so they hide them, and keep on hiding.
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I agree with everything in the opening post, but isn't that how politicians have acted for... well, forever? Let's face it, as a rule, politicians are not the best examples of morality.
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the politiciens dont care abaout morality becuase there have to muc h money. Hillary are different and i dont think she are finish politique. she are much better person.


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The thing that scares me is all the seasoned Democrat leaders saying things like "I guarantee she'll be the one" (Pelosi) and last night on meet the press a New York Represent said basically the same thing. Is this in the bag for her, due to her insiders? Her entire demeanor has change to a very calm and collected Hillary right after the call for a delegate freeze. Like she knows something!!

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