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Old 03-26-2008, 07:22 PM
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Cool If USA wants to lead Must be Model Citizen

McCain says for people to appreciate American virtues it must be a model citizen, probably true its hard to coerce people with force. Force requires more force, that is why dictators fail, why Saddam failed and why few trust the USA, it says it is spreading goodwill on one hand on the other hand it says it is bombing the world to secure its own interest.

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McCain says for people to appreciate American virtues it must be a model citizen, probably true its hard to coerce people with force. Force requires more force, that is why dictators fail, why Saddam failed and why few trust the USA, it says it is spreading goodwill on one hand on the other hand it says it is bombing the world to secure its own interest.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7314887.stm

Goodwill, my ass. Nobody should dare lecture the US, when half of the world is dictatorships. Name me a country other than the US, and I'll tell you what I don't like about it. And who asked anyonb to trust us? Your post is idiotic.
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Goodwill, my ass. Nobody should dare lecture the US, when half of the world is dictatorships. Name me a country other than the US, and I'll tell you what I don't like about it. And who asked anyonb to trust us? Your post is idiotic.
All the Presidents ask to be trusted, otherwise they wouldn't try to justify what they do, true US is a whole lot better than three quarters of the world, but still, I will name
Switzerland
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It shouldn't have been a post you are right, it should have been on current affairs, but don't you want the USA to be trusted, don't you wantto be trusted
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McCain says for people to appreciate American virtues it must be a model citizen, probably true its hard to coerce people with force. Force requires more force, that is why dictators fail, why Saddam failed and why few trust the USA, it says it is spreading goodwill on one hand on the other hand it says it is bombing the world to secure its own interest.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7314887.stm
America is a model citizen in the sense of what we're leading towards. We want them to have democracy, and we have it.
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I never claimed that 100,000 civilians died by American hands. I merely state the fact that our invasion and occupation has resulted in 100,000 civilian deaths.

This is figure approximates the numbers from Iraq Body Count, the most well documented, and highly regarded, source of civilian Iraq deaths from violence during our war with Iraq.
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So your logic is that if we are not there, the number will go down... That makes perfect sense... not.
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All the Presidents ask to be trusted, otherwise they wouldn't try to justify what they do, true US is a whole lot better than three quarters of the world, but still, I will name
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Lessee: They refused to allow jewish refugees in during WWII. They accepted looted nazi gold. The still had lots of works of art the nazis had plundered from all over europe until the 1990s.
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They never met a commie they didn't like. They traded with north vietnam while the US was fighting them. They think they're euroweenies, but they're only pseudo-euroweenies. Their whole culture is based on anti-US paranoia. They go down to cuba and lay on castro's beaches and smoke his cigars, while democrats suffer in his political prisons.
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It shouldn't have been a post you are right, it should have been on current affairs, but don't you want the USA to be trusted, don't you wantto be trusted
No, I couldn't care lees if the US is "trusted".
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Lessee: They refused to allow jewish refugees in during WWII. They accepted looted nazi gold. The still had lots of works of art the nazis had plundered from all over europe until the 1990s.


They never met a commie they didn't like. They traded with north vietnam while the US was fighting them. They think they're euroweenies, but they're only pseudo-euroweenies. Their whole culture is based on anti-US paranoia. They go down to cuba and lay on castro's beaches and smoke his cigars, while democrats suffer in his political prisons.
You got me, But the Swiss citizen enjoys life, Canadians are too far against the individual too the extreme, very sad, that is why Canadians to be succesful as individuals to a large part can only make it in America because in Canada they have to know somebody.

As you do not care if the world trusts America, the Swiss do not care that they refused Jewish refugees right next door to Germany that would have been difficult, they accepted looted nazi gold, Americans used Nazi scientists to build up their space program and teh Russian too, those Aryans, can't get enough of them
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You got me, But the Swiss citizen enjoys life, Canadians are too far against the individual too the extreme, very sad, that is why Canadians to be succesful as individuals to a large part can only make it in America because in Canada they have to know somebody.

As you do not care if the world trusts America, the Swiss do not care that they refused Jewish refugees right next door to Germany that would have been difficult, they accepted looted nazi gold, Americans used Nazi scientists to build up their space program and teh Russian too, those Aryans, can't get enough of them
The US used german scientists who were only nominally "nazis" - you couldn't get any significant position in the third reich unless you nominally belonged to the nazi party, and I assure you werner von braun didn't spend his time goose stepping around and shouting "Heil Hitler!". The US used these German scientists to oppose the soviet union when it wanted to take over the world, which would include switzerland. It did this while you euros were sitting on the sidelines eating your croissants, cutting your defense budgets, and giving yourself eight-week vacations.
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It's has to be dragged kicking and screaming every inch into the 21st century.

That goes for most of the middle-east.
This dragging.. Is it your intention to have the American soldier do this to all of them?
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