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Old 08-11-2004, 07:42 AM
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Default Anti-Semitism and the Far Left

Increasingly, the far left is adopting the dogma and language of anti-semitism. Most recently, this has been coming from Ralph Nader, though it has long been a stand-by of signs and slogans at anti-war protests.

http://www.watchblog.com/republicans...es/001384.html

Personally, I am quite distubed at the resurgence of anti-semitism...both here, and abroad:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/funct...6-105936-7516r

What factors are responsible? Quite clearly, the anti-war far left's cozy relationship with Islamic groups is one factor:


http://www.coxandforkum.com/
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Default I'm sorry...what "cozy" relationship?

Being anti-Sharon, or anti-Israeli policy does NOT make one an anti-semite...

Nice troll though....
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Default Perhaps you should read a little deeper,

speaking of trolling.

Does promoting the idea of a Zionist Occuptional Government (ZOG), an historic anti-semitic belief amongst white supremists in the U.S. qualify?

Does promoting the idea that Jewish people working in our government are pulling strings behind the scenes to run things seem anti-semitic? Historically, it has been classified as such (not to mention being racist, to boot).

Does promoting the idea that the U.S. government is a "puppet" to Jewish masters seem anti-Semitic? Hostircally, it has been classified as such.

Does the recent account of French tourists attacking Jewish students at Auschwitz, assaulting them, and hurling anti-Jewish insults at them seem anti-semitic to you?

Or did those "Dirty evil Jews" simply deserve such treatment?

Tell me, Truebrit, do you think the Jews are pulling the strings behind the scenes in our government?

Perhaps, rather than responding to a percieved troll with what clearly IS a trollish remark, you could consider doing some more research.

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Default Nice try...

You make some long leaps.

I am not aware of anti semitism in the Democratic party. If there is, it's probably because the Democrats have moved further to the right.
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Default Uh, dude, did you read what I wrote?

The topic: THE FAR LEFT.

Example: NADER

Is Nader a democrat?

Geez. Read before responding, please.

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Default ???

I thought to republicans, the Far Left were always stereotyped as Pacifist, granola eating, vegan, tree hugging hippies who smoke pot all day while chanting Make love not war?

Wow, and now they're anti-semites because they don't agree with how the Palestinians are being treated?? I guess some people just don't read the labels before they start sticking them on people.
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Default the fear...

Ok, I do think it's possible to be critical of a nation's leader and it's policies, without hating the nation itself and the people in it.

I think though, that we've seen how quicky sparks of anti-semitism can unite to form an uncontrolable blazing fire...

So, I for one, get nervous.

Also, I do think that the specific examples Catz gave sounded anti semetic to me.

Jews have throughout their history been feared and misunderstood. And they have often played the part of the scapegoat.
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Ok, I do think it's possible to be critical of a nation's leader and it's policies, without hating the nation itself and the people in it.

I think though, that we've seen how quicky sparks of anti-semitism can unite to form an uncontrolable blazing fire...

So, I for one, get nervous.

Also, I do think that the specific examples Catz gave sounded anti semetic to me.

Jews have throughout their history been feared and misunderstood. And they have often played the part of the scapegoat.

I think you're bang on about people misunderstanding Jews throughout history. I just don't know if I agree with people who are critical of a nation's leader would hate its people. I hate Hitler and what he stood for, but I don't hate Gemans. I hate Saddam, but I don't hate Iraqi civilians. Especially when the leader serves to oppress or harm its people or another identifiable group, I think it's possible to seperate the two.

But I'm wondering if I misunderstood your posts - could you please ellaborate if you get the chance? I think you have a very interesting perspective on this topic, and I would hate to misinterpret what you're trying to say.
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Default No, dear.

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Wow, and now they're anti-semites because they don't agree with how the Palestinians are being treated??
No, they're anti-semitic because they're parroting the anti-semitic garbage that if coming from the lips of the far right would be understood to be racist crappola.


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I guess some people just don't read the labels before they start sticking them on people.
I guess some people just don't read the posts on a thread before they bother to start responding to them.
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Default PoliticallyIncorrect

I think you understood my post very well. And echoed my sentiments. Yes, I believe it's possible to be critical of Sharon and some of his policies without hating Israel or Jews.



I think there are many factors that come into this... Sometimes, we become what we used to despise. Life is funny (ironic) that way. And I think if some of the Israeli policies are too aggressive they need to be self aware enough to keep that in check... Lest they become the hunter (instead of the hunted)... you know?

But sometimes people have a hard time separting things out. We tend to lump people together and smack a label on them.

I wish we didn't do that. But it seems a hard habbit to break.

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