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Old 05-08-2008, 05:43 PM
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Christianity could be the most violently vile religion on earth, yet you would still be hung up on Muslims.
As you admit, christianity is not a problem, so it has nothing to do with the discussion, except to emarress islam for being so blatantly and utterly evil in comparison to Jesus Christ or modern day Christianity, which though very silly bothers me very, very little.

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I repeat: Not all Muslims are bad people.
Sure, not all nazis were bad people. Then like now, there were plenty of people around like you before Pearl Harbor who defended them like you defend the islamoterrorists.
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Sure, not all nazis were bad people. Then like now, there were plenty of people around like you before Pearl Harbor who defended them like you defend the islamoterrorists.
If not every Muslim is bad, they should be defended, not condemned.
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If not every Muslim is bad, they should be defended, not condemned.
Any muslim that rejects the large majority of islam that is utterly and completely evil would be okay. I just don't think there are many of them. It seems like good muslims abandon islam and bad muslims embrace it. muhammed was an evil child raping, thieving, murdering, cult leader idiot after all and islam is ALL about how cool he was for being such an evil freak.

Some people were forced to be nazis and really weren't bad people and in any cases where people are forced to be muslim or pretend to be muslim or don't really understand what islam really is (evil) or interpret in their own (non-literal/true) way, they would not be bad people either. But, the important thing to understand is that islam is evil and a threat to humanity which must be reformed or defeated/destroyed. Appeasing islam will lead to the loss of Western freedom until there is a rebellion and genocide against the muslims in retaliation (Europe soon).
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Any muslim that rejects the large majority of islam that is utterly and completely evil would be okay. I just don't think there are many of them. It seems like good muslims abandon islam and bad muslims embrace it. muhammed was an evil child raping, thieving, murdering, cult leader idiot after all and islam is ALL about how cool he was for being such an evil freak.
You have such a preoccupation with Muhammed...
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You have such a preoccupation with Muhammed...
No, muslims do. Try to get them to condemn his evil. They won't. They will spin and rationalize. They do the same thing with terrorism. They start blabbing about how all war is terrorism because civilians die. Its all BS for fools to swallow while the islamonazis plot the end of all freedom on Earth and the end to all humanity in humans. And, the democrats, liberals, and other fools have swallowed it and actually argue for them, just as fools argued for appeasing hitler.
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Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

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No, muslims do. Try to get them to condemn his evil. They won't. They will spin and rationalize. They do the same thing with terrorism. They start blabbing about how all war is terrorism because civilians die. Its all BS for fools to swallow while the islamonazis plot the end of all freedom on Earth and the end to all humanity in humans.
Muslims possibly defend Muhammed because there are actually good things about him, too, and they simply disregard, or choose not to dwell, or the negative things.
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Sure, I understand hitler had his good side also. Are you as big a fan of hitler as you are of the islamoterrorists, spend up as much time defending how righteous nazis really are because hitler had a good side?
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Sure, I understand hitler had his good side also. Are you as big a fan of hitler as you are of the islamoterrorists, spend up as much time defending how righteous nazis really are because hitler had a good side?
I never said I was a fan of Hitler, did I?
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I never said I was a fan of Hitler, did I?
Kind of. islam is very similar to naziism, only worse, and muhamed was very similar to hitler, though much worse in long term impact. You have defended islam, which is worse than defending naziism or hitler.

Now, defending any non-evil people that for some reason call themselves or pretend to me muslim is different but still of no good constructive purpose really and helps the enemy which clearly represents the vast majority of muslims in one way or another (direct terrorism or support/sanction). Hell, the democrats are close to becoming islamoterrorist supporters these days with hamas supporting obama, obama wanting to retreat from iraq where Al Qaeda says and demonstrates it wants bases and is fighting to get them, etc, etc. You appeasers and apologists are to a large part what make these idiot islamosavages dangerous.
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Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

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Of course not. Christianity could be the most violently vile religion on earth, yet you would still be hung up on Muslims.

I repeat: Not all Muslims are bad people.
Agreed. Not all Muslims are bad people. But that in no way mitigates the fact that Islam, as it is practiced in certain areas of the Middle East, is a violent and repressive political and religious ideology. This is what Eleanor is trying to say, even though she does so in a very offensive way. The fundemental tenets of Islam place it in a position of bold confrontation with the democratic and multicultural ideals we have learned from youth. I realize that the Muslim living next door to me may be a nice fellow, but that doesn't change what Islam is. It is an ideology hell-bent on imposing its narrow view of the world on the rest of humanity.
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