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Old 05-10-2008, 11:08 AM
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There is absolutely NOTHING right-wing about it.
I can't really agree. islam is a totalitarian ideology enforcing an insane moral code, legal code, and economic code which to me speaks of the far right. But, then the extremes tend to meet and islam certainly is as extreme an ideology as there can possibly be.
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Old 05-10-2008, 11:40 AM
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I am sick and tired of all the political correctness surrounding the "Religion of Peace". The media, the politicians and leaders of all the western countries around the world have allowed too much of this slaughters to continue under the guise of religious tolerance. It seems to me that one can only tolerate so much until you get to a breaking point and you have to say, enough is enough!

Many people don't realize that the Crusades were not an offensive but a defensive action by Christians who were being denied access to the Holy Land by the followers of this new religion, and it was invading its southern areas and countries under European control from Greece to Spain.

This is after all, a religion that most unbiased observers would agree, was created by a perverse old man for the express purpose of controlling his subjects, followers and his wives. Muhammad was not a prophet, but one of the false prophets that Jesus warned us about.



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Isn't anyone sick and tired of all the mayhem being committed worldwide in the name of Allah? How many times have you seen throngs of Muslims in the streets screaming death to Jews or America or Israel? They kill tens of people because a cartoon is printed in a newspaper. Who does this?

I think it is time to stop treating this religion as a religion, and call it was it really is, a political cult. It makes no difference between government and religion when it comes to laws or governance. I don't see any reason why it can't be banned. Anyone who wants to follow this "religion" should be encouraged to do so, in any Muslim country of their choice. Let's deport the ones we have, because if you ask me, they are all a threat to national security. When was the last time you saw Muslim Americans protesting in throngs in the streets about 9/11? About any act of terror? When have you ever seen any marching in the streets in support of our troops? Never.

So isn't it about time that we make a serious effort to effect a war not just on terrorism, but the root of terrorism, which is Islam?




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Exactly. And seeing as theocracies have proven in history to have been utter failures, I think it's worth trying.
There is no proof of that, either, unless you are only referring to Sharia law-run oligarchies in the Middle East.
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There is no proof of that, either, unless you are only referring to Sharia law-run oligarchies in the Middle East.
Monarchy, as in the absolute monarchies of the medieval ages, were theocracies, that is because the sovereignty of the King was vested in him through divine right, through the Church. Feudalism failed, and so did theocracy, current Middle Eastern theocratic monarchies like Saudi Arabia or Jordan still exist, but you also have Iran which is a bit more modern theocracy -seeing as it using a Republic form of government rather than a monarchy.
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Why so much hate? Don't worry, be happy.
This eloquent yet blissfully ignorant response to my original post is exhaustively exasperating in that it reflects the same lack of understanding of the basic thesis of the thread. It can be seen in nearly every post which is counter to or opposition to this thread. It can be seen in nearly every post which defends Islam.

The point I am making is that Islam is not a religion. I am not trying to destroy a religion as many posters have repeated over and over. I am not suggesting we kill over 1 billion people as many people have stated several times throughout this thread.

As much as Eleanoraquitaine is reviled on this thread she and a handful of others here seem to "get it". I like what she has contributed to this thread; it has been educational and thought provoking. At times, she can be quite eloquent indeed. She has a great writing ability and can sum up an argument very concisely:

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It is fairly frequent that I find the opportunity to inform people about muhammed and islam, in person. And, many people are completely unaware of the facts about muhammed being a child rapist pedophile, or having been an evil conqueror that started numerous wars to spread his cult, etc, etc. Most are astonished to hear how this "religion of peace" was actually started in violence and has spread through violence ever since. And most are glad to be informed, even I find many democrats and liberals. Many of which may not even quite see things clearly right away enough to support my full case but they move toward my position rapidly and will continue to do so as islam continues to escalate their stupid jihad making their evil abundantly clear.

Because after all, despite the apologists and appeasers fantasies, "radical islam" is on the rise, dramatically, all across the world. So, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that islam will ever reform itself and become peaceful. No, just as Germany and Japan had to be totally defeated in order to achieve reform, so to must islam.
For those of you who dismiss her outright, or the basic thesis of this thread I would like you to review, then come back and say you believe we are still wrong. I think it is unfortunate that you will be unlikely to change your mind however, because I believe you have been thoroughly brainwashed into believing that Islam is a religion, that all religions should be treated equally, that we have a right to have religious beliefs in our country and yet again, totally miss the point.
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The point I am making is that Islam is not a religion.
What makes you decide what is and is not a religion?
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What makes you decide what is and is not a religion?
I think he probably had to come to that conclusion trying to claim that liberalism wasn't a religion.
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What makes you decide what is and is not a religion?
This is my point exactly. If you read this thread, however long, you will see that the argument is made that Islam is not simply a religion, but a political form and ideology, and a murderous one at that. Furthermore, evidence has been provided throughout which supports my argument. It is not a matter that I have decided, it is a fact in evidence.
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