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Old 04-02-2008, 08:23 AM
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I have never read Mein Kompf either, and I never intend to. From what I here, it is basically the same book, kill Jews, kill Christians, kill everyone that disagrees, ect.
you're a good sample of those who don't know what the hell they're talking about.

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The quotes in my sig are not the topic at hand and neither is Christianity. Do you speak islam? No? Then, you clearly have no basis to question the translation and saying they are out of context is meaningless. These are merely efforts to change the subject and spin the fact that ISLAM is the ideology intentionally murdering civilians in its name every day all over the world. Claiming "context" for all the absurdly evil words of islam is ludicrous. What context justified muhammed raping a 9 year old girl? What justifies him saying non-muslims can be killed like cattle, enslaved, murdered, robbed, and raped? So, armies didn't attack Jesus. He gave his life without making any effort to fight back and clearly some if not all of his followers would have defended him. muhammed eagerly waged war on anyone around that wouldn't take him as their totalitarian ruler. Comparing these two men is ridiculous! Where is all the Christian terrorism then? We see almost none but see MASSIVE numbers of islamic terrorism. In truth, there is no concept of terrorism in islam. According to the unholy quran, ALL muslims should be happy to die waging jihad, even children, so there ARE NO CIVILIANS in islam's ideology, hence their willingness to kill anyone for just about any reason.

As for quotes about muhammed waging unprovoked war, I will not list a great number of them, and feel free to spin away saying they are improperly translated or out of context. I am sure most people with common sense will realize the truth:

Qur'an:8:7 "Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: 'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"

Ishaq:204 "'Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man?' 'Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.'"

Tabari IX:118 "The armies and raiding parties sent by the Messenger of Allah between the time he came to Medina and his death (ten years) was forty-eight."

Ishaq:572 "Muhammad is the man, an Apostle of my Lord. Evil was the state of our enemy so they lost the day. Fortunes change and we came upon them like lions from the thickets. The armies of Allah came openly, flying at them in rage, so they could not get away. We destroyed them and forced them to surrender. In the former days there was no battle like this; their blood flowed freely. We slew them and left them in the dust. Those who escaped were choked with terror. A multitude of them were slain. This is Allah's war in which those who do not accept Islam will have no helper. War destroyed the tribe and fate the clan."

Bukhari:V4B52N311 "Allah's Apostle said, 'There is no migration after the Conquest of Mecca, but only Jihad. When you are called by the Muslim ruler for Jihad fighting, you should go forth immediately, responding to the call.'"

Bukhari:V4B53N386 "Umar sent Muslims to great countries to fight pagans. He said, 'I intend to invade Persia and Rome.' So, he ordered us to go to [the Persian King] Khosrau. When we reached the enemy, Khosrau's representative came out with 40,000 warriors, saying, 'Talk to me! Who are you?' Mughira replied, 'We are Arabs; we led a hard, miserable, disastrous life. We used to worship trees and stones. While we were in this state, our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone or pay us the Jizyah tribute tax in submission. Our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says: 'Whoever amongst us is killed as a martyr shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever survives shall become your master.'"

Ishaq:587 "Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace."

Could list thousands more.....
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Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

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Moral equivalence my friends!!! Isn't anyone reading this thread?

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Are they teaching children to kill the Jews in Jesus Camp? Are they teaching them that Jihad will get them a free pass into Heaven?
Do you have difficulty with reading comprehension? I said Jesus Camp was the Evangelical's answer to Madrasahs, not equivalent.
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The quotes in my sig are not the topic at hand and neither is Christianity. Do you speak islam? No? Then, you clearly have no basis to question the translation and saying they are out of context is meaningless.
You don't know how ignorant you sound asking "Do you speak Islam?" They speak Arabic, not Islam. That's like saying Jews speak Israel.

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ISLAM is the ideology intentionally murdering civilians in its name every day all over the world
Oklahoma City bomber ring a bell? How about the Unibomber? Terrorists don't necessarily have to be Muslim.

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You don't know how ignorant you sound asking "Do you speak Islam?" They speak Arabic, not Islam. That's like saying Jews speak Jewish.
OBVIOUSLY, its just a typo resulting from editing a sentence and not re-reading it carefully enough. But, if you want to use such an excuse to ignore the facts on the evil of islam, so be it. Eventually, even the most idiotic of Westerners will fully realize the evil of islam because oil is allowing them to escalate the war very quickly now.

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Oklahoma City bomber ring a bell? How about the Unibomber? Terrorists don't necessarily have to be Muslim.
Right, a couple examples of Christians compared to a global jihad on the other. Its an utterly ridiculous comparison.
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Qur'an:8:67 It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.
Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

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OBVIOUSLY, its just a typo resulting from editing a sentence and not re-reading it carefully enough. But, if you want to use such an excuse to ignore the facts on the evil of islam, so be it. Eventually, even the most idiotic of Westerners will fully realize the evil of islam because oil is allowing them to escalate the war very quickly now.



Right, a couple examples of Christians compared to a global jihad on the other. Its an utterly ridiculous comparison.
lol, ok buddy. And I don't believe either of them were Christian.

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Genocide: that's the answer.


WTF is wrong with some people?
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You don't know how ignorant you sound asking "Do you speak Islam?" They speak Arabic, not Islam. That's like saying Jews speak Israel.



Oklahoma City bomber ring a bell? How about the Unibomber? Terrorists don't necessarily have to be Muslim.

Neither Timothy McVeigh nor Ted Kazinski killed in the name of any religion. They were atheiests in fact.
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SIZE="7"]Genocide: that's the answer.[/size]


WTF is wrong with some people?
I dunno, what is wrong with them? Why are they committing genecide all over the world? Lousy Islamists!
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Genocide: that's the answer.


WTF is wrong with some people?
I've got a feeling that they would kill me if I were beside them. they're talking about all Muslims, well, I'm a Muslim, and they don't even know me!
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