You're advocating genocide to fight a few extremists.

What is wrong with you?

Well, if you read the previous posts in this thread, I am advocating quite the opposite.

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We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. -- Ann Coulter

Let's not forget that the terrorists are Islamic extremists and not the general population. The Qaran preaches as much peace and love as does the Bible (as far as I know).

I suggest you take some time to study up on Christianity...

As you will see, reading through the Old Testament of our Christian Bible, we see a very similar picture painted of literally killing our enemies. There are many more stories of course but I only listed these to save space.

However, the New Testament changes everything. Jesus calls us to love our enemies and turn the other cheek; slightly different from you attitudes of eradication.

Maybe some people in this country should study their own religion more closely, rather than defaulting to overgeneralizing certain groups of people into scapegoats.

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I don't see you condeming the Muslims for any terrorist attacks. I don't see you advocating for Israel's right to exist either. Do you disavow all the passages in the Koran which call for the murder and enslaving of Jews and infidels, Christians and others? I don't see you complaining about the beheadings that are being done in the name of Islam.

Do you endorse this activity?

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We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. -- Ann Coulter

Has ANYONE in this thread really advocating killing all muslims? I think maybe one did but maybe not. I certainly do and did nothing of the sort and I saw the topic starter clearly said he endorsed nothing of the kind. Besides making us everything we would be fighting against, its simply impractical. What is important is not deciding to wipe out every last one of them but defeating their ideology, making it clear that it can not succeed in spreading its totalitarian tyranny through force. There are still nazis alive today but naziism is defeated. The war on islamofascism is proceeding generally very well. We could use less naive Westerners helping them through propaganda and obstructionism and a better understanding of the fact that this truly is an evil enemy that can not be appeased. If England and the USA had LISTENED to Churchill as he said for YEARS these same things about Hitler, millions of lives could have been saved. Those who simply refuse to face the facts on islamofascism are dragging the West into the exact same mistake.

Further, I will again point out that constantly bringing up Christianity is simply a distraction. I am not Christian but an agnostic and don't give a rats behind who people worship. Christianity, which is not threatening anyone, has nothing to do with the world wide global jihad and is simply off topic.

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Qur'an:8:39 Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
Qur'an:8:67 It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.
Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

You're advocating the destruction of islam.

You think that is possible without the destruction of Muslims?

You're the one that first referred to them. That made them part of the topic at hand.

I find it telling that you decline to defend your out-of-context quotes, yet will probably keep them in your sig and post them elsewhere, even knowing they are out-of-context.

Ah, I see. I don't speak Arabic, so therefore I must accept all English translations of Arabic as equally valid. Riiigggghhhtttt. Never mind the hordes of Arabic speakers who have said the translation is incorrect.

LOL! Context is what gives words meaning. It's the *only* thing that gives words meanings. Saying "I'd like to kill him!" has no meaning unless we know who "him" is, why you'd like to kill him, and whether you mean it literally or figuratively.

I can quote dozens of really violent or amoral Bible passages. And most believers would respond (generally accurately) that the passage in question is either allegory or means something else *in context.* Yet we're not supposed to extend the same courtesy to Islam.

Then you should be able to provide passages that are "absurdly evil" even in context. Please do so.

Please provide specific verses or facts. I can't respond to unsourced generalities.

In Islamic tradition, Muhammed merely defended himself and his followers against people who were trying to destroy him.

Did Muhammed end up conquering the Arabian peninsula? Yes. Is it a little hard to believe that he did that entirely through "defensive" war? Yes. So we can agree that he (or subsequent interpretation) bent the truth to some extent.

But the fact remains that the religion he founded justifies only defensive war, not aggressive war.

Christianity went through its violent phase a few centuries back. It lasted for several centuries. You might have heard of it. Indeed, your screenname was up to her high-born neck in an early part of it.

If you were around back then, you would have been aghast at all the violence inherent in Christianity. Maybe you might have even called for its elimination.

It eventually burned itself out, and Christians got over it. But don't pretend it didn't happen.

This is simply nonsense, as far as mainstream Islam goes.

But at least you listed some. Thanks. I'll respond to them in detail in my next post.

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Man up.

There's a difference between islamism, and islam.

The topic starter did not differentiate.

Oh........OK........


"Death to islamism!"

I would agree with this and suggest to muslims they study the teachings of Jesus also. If we could convert more of them to Christianity this world would be a much better place.

This I would not agree with.

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