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How does a person conform to hate a religion?
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Because the main point of this thread and the main argument I am making is against a homicidal political cult not a religion.
Nazism was a homicidal political cult. Although it still exists, it has been destroyed for the most part. If Islam is a religion of peace, then I have no problem with it or its followers. But look at what is going on in the world and don't blindly accept that all religions are good and therefore to criticize one would be bigotry.

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It is also morally stupid...A religion is supposed to be all that is good in the world, it is supposed to be all that is peaceful and right.
It would be immoral for society to ignore the destruction and death that is being committed and excuse those committing these acts because it is a religion, or because they have a different culture.
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Nazism was a homicidal political cult. Although it still exists, it has been destroyed for the most part. If Islam is a religion of peace, then I have no problem with it or its followers. But look at what is going on in the world and don't blindly accept that all religions are good and therefore to criticize one would be bigotry.



It would be immoral for society to ignore the destruction and death that is being committed and excuse those committing these acts because it is a religion, or because they have a different culture.
Nazism was a Christian movement.
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Nazism was a Christian movement.
It was a socialist movement. Hitler was not a Christian:

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Hitler and other Nazi leaders clearly made use of both Christian symbolism combined with indigenous Germanic pagan imagery mixed with ancient Roman symbolism and emotion in propaganda for the German public.

Many Nazi leaders subscribed either to a mixture of then modern scientific theories, as Hitler himself did, or to mysticism and occultism, which was especially strong in the SS. Central to both groupings was the belief in Germanic (white Northern-European) racial superiority.
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In 1941, Martin Bormann, a close associate of Hitler said publicly "National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable" In 1942 he also declared in a confidential memo to Gauleiters that the Christian Churches 'must absolutely and finally be broken.' Thus, it is evident that he believed Nazism, based as it was on a 'scientific' world-view, to be completely incompatible with Christianity
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After a failed assassination on Hitler's life in 1943 which involved elements of the Confessing Church (a Protestant organization), Hitler ordered the arrest of Protestant, mainly Lutheran clergy. Catholic clergy were also suppressed if they spoke out against the regime
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This thread needs to die because it's obviously Christian tyranny
I am an agnostic and my resistance to islamofascism is for secular reasons, not religious.

I see no one responded to the poll and most of the discussion is off-topic. Too-bad- just what the islamofascists want....
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"Us"? Us being who? We here on this forum? I doubt any of you have had contact with a real Muslim terrorist. I even doubt that most of you had a family member in 9/11. There are very few Americans that are actually affected by the 4 thousand dead American soldiers. I can't say whether or not any of you are one of them, but I am not. I am not a member of "us", and I wish it to stay that way. I do not want YOU making and forcing ME to become a member of "us". The day that you do, it takes away my liberty, you infringe on my freedom, and you infringe on their's as well. If they want to fight a war, they can knock their (*)(*)(*)(*)ing socks off, if you want to pick a side, I'm sure you can find a way to do so WITH OUT ASSOCIATING YOURSELF WITH AMERICA.

Set out to destroy any you like, so long as it's not America.
Wow what a bunch of crap. So until terrorism strikes someone I know I should not care? Should America not have responded to Pearl Harbor? Or only the ones who knew people killed in Pearl Harbor?

I have no doubt you DON'T consider yourself one of "us". You hate America and would never approve of any military force used no matter what.

After 9/11 I was filled with hate. I felt sad for the families of those killed that day. People just trying to go to work. Men, women, husbands, wives, sons, daughters, aunts, grandfathers, friends, etc. Bush responded with muscle and fought back by invading Afghanistan and then shocked the middle east by calling Saddams bluff and going in and taking him out. I loved it. For once America was not playing weak defense but flexing its muscle in some offense.

If people like you showed half as much hate for terrorism as you seem to do your own country we might actually win this thing.
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Because the main point of this thread and the main argument I am making is against a homicidal political cult not a religion.
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Nazism was a Christian movement.
Obviously, Jesus would strongly disagree!
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Wow what a bunch of crap. So until terrorism strikes someone I know I should not care? Should America not have responded to Pearl Harbor? Or only the ones who knew people killed in Pearl Harbor?

I have no doubt you DON'T consider yourself one of "us". You hate America and would never approve of any military force used no matter what.

After 9/11 I was filled with hate. I felt sad for the families of those killed that day. People just trying to go to work. Men, women, husbands, wives, sons, daughters, aunts, grandfathers, friends, etc. Bush responded with muscle and fought back by invading Afghanistan and then shocked the middle east by calling Saddams bluff and going in and taking him out. I loved it. For once America was not playing weak defense but flexing its muscle in some offense.

If people like you showed half as much hate for terrorism as you seem to do your own country we might actually win this thing.
I'll be the one that decides where I direct my hate. Right now, it's directed at this thread - a thread that obviously proves how white and black people think the world is. It's NEVER that simple. It's never "LET'S TAKE OUT ISLAM." You can't take out Islam, nor should you try to DESTROY it. It's simple cause and effect. We (or anyone; "us") try to take out Islam, and they try to take out "us". I get sick of this whole religious movement. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I know you wish you could kill all who oppose Christianity, but you can't. That's life. It's also not what god would want.
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It was a socialist movement. Hitler was not a Christian:







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Fine. Have it your way. The KKK was a Christian group. The English empire was a Christian country and they waged many Christian wars. Rome was Christian, and they held the crusades.
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