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Old 04-06-2008, 12:23 AM
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I am an agnostic and my resistance to islamofascism is for secular reasons, not religious.

I see no one responded to the poll and most of the discussion is off-topic. Too-bad- just what the islamofascists want....
I'm also agnostic. I can't believe in one particular religion when they're all fighting in the name of some god. It's blaspheme to begin with. This thread is blaspheme. A religious war is ironic blaspheme. All gods at some point tell their followers to be good people, to not kill one another and live in peace. I may not believe in a particular god, but I certainly agree with the premise.
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I'll be the one that decides where I direct my hate. Right now, it's directed at this thread - a thread that obviously proves how white and black people think the world is. It's NEVER that simple. It's never "LET'S TAKE OUT ISLAM." You can't take out Islam, nor should you try to DESTROY it. It's simple cause and effect. We (or anyone; "us") try to take out Islam, and they try to take out "us". I get sick of this whole religious movement. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I know you wish you could kill all who oppose Christianity, but you can't. That's life. It's also not what god would want.
That's the thing, you just said I wish I could take out all who oppose christianity and that could not be farther from the truth. In fact, where do you get that from any of my posts? I could care less if you or anyone else opposes christianity. Just don't cut my head off or my babies head off over it.

Thanks for highlighting why people like you are so off base. You seek to equate christianity with radical muslims. It's apples and dog poo.

All I want is to raise my family in a normal world and not worry about a plane flying into my office building or a bomb going off on my train as I take my family for a fun day in the city.

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Sickntiredofliblies in another thread implied that I might side with the author of this thread. So I am posting this just as an FYI. No, I dont think Islam should be destroyed.

Thats all. Move along.
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That's the thing, you just said I wish I could take out all who oppose christianity and that could not be farther from the truth. In fact, where do you get that from any of my posts? I could care less if you or anyone else opposes christianity. Just don't cut my head off or my babies head off over it.

Thanks for highlighting why people like you are so off base. You seek to equate christianity with radical muslims. It's apples and dog poo.

All I want is to raise my family in a normal world and not worry about a plane flying into my office building or a bomb going off on my train as I take my family for a fun day in the city.
And so do they, or maybe they want to destroy the white man. It could be either. Obviously if they're just like us, they'll think just like us, and they'll do the same things as us, and that would be bad for us. Notice, I didn't say "us".

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And so do they, or maybe they want to destroy the white man. It could be either. Obviously if they're just like us, they'll think just like us, and they'll do the same things as us, and that would be bad for us. Notice, I didn't say "us".
They are not like us. They are animals and have proven so many times over many years. They are nothing like "us". They are willing to strap bombs onto their own kids and send them into crowds of innocent men, woman, children. They'd behead someone over a cartoon. They stone women for revealing too much skin. It's like medieval times in the middle east.
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55% of muslims are willing to commit violence if they feel insulted. That means 55% are willing to kill over a cartoon published in another country. And, since they view our freedom not to worship allah/muhammed insulting, that means at least 55% feel free to kill us simply because we don't obey them.

Its an evil ideology/religion/government. Its as evil as anything can be.
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55% of muslims are willing to commit violence if they feel insulted. That means 55% are willing to kill over a cartoon published in another country. And, since they view our freedom not to worship allah/muhammed insulting, that means at least 55% feel free to kill us simply because we don't obey them.

Its an evil ideology/religion/government. Its as evil as anything can be.
Not that I know where these stats come from, but before taking them as proof that islam is evil, we should look at other influencing factors.

1. Their leadership... Radical leadership can turn any group violent. Obvious point in case, "christian" Nazi Germany or "Christian" white supremists.

2. Their environment... Any group that feels threatened will tend to be violent. I don't make any case at this point that Muslams have any need or reason to feel threatend by Christians or the western world, but many believe they are. This builds off the first point above where leadership teaches children and the society to fear the western world, christians and jews. It's only natural that higher tendancies for violence will result. This, however, does not speak to the nature of Islam. Just their environment.
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The source of the poll is in the thread. muslims commit terrorism/jihad because their perfect madman muhammed told them to.

Its really just that simple.
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Glad we're having a rational discussion here.
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Me too.

Please explain to me how a cold-blooded murderer, rapist, thief, and warlord that lead numerous wars of conquest to spread his religion and is considered the "perfect man" of islam set an example that is peaceful? How can muslims that are sworn to follow his examples be peaceful? Only by rejecting him and his teachings, which means they would not be muslims, by definition.

Therefore, it is simple logic that to be muslim means you are a terrorist or at minimum a terrorist sympathizer.
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