Originally Posted by PatriotNews

So isn't it about time that we make a serious effort to effect a war not just on terrorism, but the root of terrorism, which is Islam?

Originally Posted by PatriotNews

I don't know about the rest of you, but I am sick and tired of all the political correctness surrounding the "Religion of Peace". The media, the politicians and leaders of all the western countries around the world have allowed too much of this slaughters to continue under the guise of religious tolerance. It seems to me that one can only tolerate so much until you get to a breaking point and you have to say, enough is enough!

Many people don't realize that the Crusades were not an offensive but a defensive action by Christians who were being denied access to the Holy Land by the followers of this new religion, and it was invading its southern areas and countries under European control from Greece to Spain.

This is after all, a religion that most unbiased observers would agree, was created by a perverse old man for the express purpose of controlling his subjects, followers and his wives. Muhammad was not a prophet, but one of the false prophets that Jesus warned us about.



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Isn't anyone sick and tired of all the mayhem being committed worldwide in the name of Allah? How many times have you seen throngs of Muslims in the streets screaming death to Jews or America or Israel? They kill tens of people because a cartoon is printed in a newspaper. Who does this?

I think it is time to stop treating this religion as a religion, and call it was it really is, a political cult. It makes no difference between government and religion when it comes to laws or governance. I don't see any reason why it can't be banned. Anyone who wants to follow this "religion" should be encouraged to do so, in any Muslim country of their choice. Let's deport the ones we have, because if you ask me, they are all a threat to national security. When was the last time you saw Muslim Americans protesting in throngs in the streets about 9/11? About any act of terror? When have you ever seen any marching in the streets in support of our troops? Never.

So isn't it about time that we make a serious effort to effect a war not just on terrorism, but the root of terrorism, which is Islam?

Originally Posted by eleanoraquitaine

Not true. muslims are waging war all over the globe and against people of all different races and religions, not just Christians. I will gladly show you all the places muslims are waging active war/jihad but YOU made the assertion Christians were fighting in most of the wars around the globe. This is FALSE. So, before I put my evidence out there, which is very easy, I want to see yours. Or, just admit you made it up with no basis in fact and then I will show you the evidence of the virus islam on the globe.

Originally Posted by raytri

Fine, no list from you.

Here's a list of current conflicts:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...war/index.html

I count 42, but that counts Israel/Palestine three times, the Philippines twice and also includes Djibouti. So let's call it 38.

How you count each conflict depends on your criteria. For instance, you could label the Algerian civil war a Muslim conflict. But it's Muslims fighting Muslims, with ethnic issues (the Berber minority) thrown in, and stemming from the government's decision to cancel elections when an Islamic party was poised to win. Is that really a Muslim war in the way you mean it? Or simpy a civil war in a Muslim country?

Similarly, Indonesia is a largely Muslim country. It's battling several insurgencies. Does that make it a Muslim war, or is it simply separatist movements in a country that happens to be mostly Muslim?

Is the Pakistan/India dispute over Kashmir a Muslim conflict, or simply a border dispute between two countries, one of which happens to be Muslim?

Even by the broadest measure, I count 21 Muslim conflicts:

Angola, Kashmir, Aceh, Maluku, Kalimantan, Papua, Israel, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Baluchistan, Philippines, Chechnya, Somalia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Thailand, Turkey, Afghanistan, Iraq, Uzbekistan, Yemen.

By the same broad measure, Christian conflicts total 18:

Angola, Burma, Colombia, Congo, Georgia, Maluku, Ivory Coast, Transdniester, Nigeria, Peru, Philippines, Chechnya, Spain, Sudan, Uganda, Afghanistan, Iraq, Uzbekistan.

They share 9 conflicts. So that leaves just 8 conflicts that involve neither Muslims or Christians.

I don't see how 21 is significantly more than 18.

Originally Posted by eleanoraquitaine

Sure, what do we care what they think/preach/worship in their own lands? The problem is that islam commands them to spread by whatever means necessary. So, its not possible to simply ignore them and stay out of their barbarian lands. They emigrate and cause trouble everywhere they go. If we were to do what the appeasers want and simply become "non-interventionist", it would simply encourage them to intervene in our affairs more and more, which they will do anyway. They are not going to stop their war to spread the virus islam no matter what we do since their perfect madman muhammed told them to do it. Its the very core nature of islam.

Therefore, ideally, islam would be utterly destroyed. But, a reformed, beaten down, safe (reformed) version of it will eventually come out of the war of civilizations and that will be good enough to make it fit in Western civilization.

Originally Posted by JavaBlack

Religions and political philosophies are common scapegoats for ethnic conflict, used by people more interested in glorifying their own blind adherence to some other religion or ideology.
Religions and ideologies are mutable. They fill vaccuums and do so in a shape that fits best. Any religion or ideology can become a reason to kill if there is a real political or material imbalance. And any religion or ideology can be twisted just as easily into a peaceful movement if that is what works best.
To believe that Islam is at the root of the problems in the Middle East is ignorance of the real economic and political issues and conflicts in the area... which could just as easily be served by another religion or ideology.

Originally Posted by i.beletesri

All told an honest count is more like 30+.. or more than 3/4 of the conflicts for 1/5 of the planet's people.

It's Really Gross to watch these unknowledgeable, intentional Apologist, mods in action- downright dishonest on an intellectual and posting level too I might add.

Originally Posted by i.beletesri

Duh.Muslims are only 20% of the World's Population.
If even by you Bogus count, they are involved in 21 that's 50%.