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Says the person who doesn't "Shut up and keep quiet."
What point are you trying to make? Anything that remotely resembles a point would be appreciated! The discussion is about a religion that has so seriously gone off track that it advocates killing non-believers.

You seem intent on taking this from a serious discussion to a childish Oh Yeah and says you type argument. If you want to take this thing off track for whatever reason, at least try to use humor and not unintelligable giberish.
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:04 PM
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Point being.. you hate the moslems. You hate them so much that every single one one of your postings you have to mention how much you hate the religion of Islam.

Sounds pretty radical to me. And just like their extremists, you now invoke some fatwa to make me stop saying things you don't agree with.

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Just because this person has some serious character flaws doesn't mean that anybody should point them out. I mean, what's more important? Ensuring peace, or calling someone a dumb cuss? Let him figure it out on his own. No one except Christian extremists are going to side with him, and he claims to not be Christian, so he's going to have some serious adversity already. Or he will amount to nothing - like so many of the people on this forum.
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I never claimed that 100,000 civilians died by American hands. I merely state the fact that our invasion and occupation has resulted in 100,000 civilian deaths.

This is figure approximates the numbers from Iraq Body Count, the most well documented, and highly regarded, source of civilian Iraq deaths from violence during our war with Iraq.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
So your logic is that if we are not there, the number will go down... That makes perfect sense... not.
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I see no evidence of moderate muslims whatsoever.
Your lack of that knowledge does not mean it does not exist.



Here ya go. It's a message from the House of the 43rd-generation direct descendant of their Prophet Muhammad.

Islamic Grand Muftis' letter to the Pope
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:10 PM
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I am a pacifist, Zen, libertarian. Do you think the islamofascists could ever understand what that means? People taught to respect only one idea, one ideology as the "supreme" truth?

I can't answer your questions. They are also my questions. I see no evidence of moderate muslims whatsoever. I see some good arabs that have abandoned islam as evil, but thats about it:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/...cpid1480107488
Have you EVER seen a Muslim women? Obviously not.
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What point are you trying to make? Anything that remotely resembles a point would be appreciated! The discussion is about a religion that has so seriously gone off track that it advocates killing non-believers.

You seem intent on taking this from a serious discussion to a childish Oh Yeah and says you type argument. If you want to take this thing off track for whatever reason, at least try to use humor and not unintelligable giberish.
lol read the conversation we had, it was only two posts long. Basically, he started it. I dominated him, as he was trying to do to me, and I won. Simple as that. Keep in mind, this is the same guy who created the topic. He's obviously more interested in leading people off-topic than I am. Speaking of the topic, have you even come to a rational decision as to how? Or are you just still shooting the (*)(*)(*)(*) and talking about how much better your lives would be with out Muslims?
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I never claimed that 100,000 civilians died by American hands. I merely state the fact that our invasion and occupation has resulted in 100,000 civilian deaths.

This is figure approximates the numbers from Iraq Body Count, the most well documented, and highly regarded, source of civilian Iraq deaths from violence during our war with Iraq.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
So your logic is that if we are not there, the number will go down... That makes perfect sense... not.
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:15 PM
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It is completely insane that so many people in this thread seem to want to protect the right of the idiots that want to destroy America. It says a lot about the slide of the left into anti-American diatribe. More willing to hate our President and defend (using our rights) the rights of those (that hate our system) that are bent on destroying us (liberal, moderate & conservative)

I am so happy we have a leader that is willing to stay the course regardless of popular opinion and has whipped the opposition at every turn.
How dare you. The founding fathers were enlightened men who truly believed that ALL men could govern themselves. If you for a second don't believe that then you are not an individualist - something every good American is. I don't care if they don't believe in American ideals or w/e, we are the ones that need to believe them. All men are created equal, and that includes everyone.
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I never claimed that 100,000 civilians died by American hands. I merely state the fact that our invasion and occupation has resulted in 100,000 civilian deaths.

This is figure approximates the numbers from Iraq Body Count, the most well documented, and highly regarded, source of civilian Iraq deaths from violence during our war with Iraq.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
So your logic is that if we are not there, the number will go down... That makes perfect sense... not.
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Do yourself a favor and take my advice.


Have you EVER seen a Muslim women? Obviously not.
lol read the conversation we had, it was only two posts long. Basically, he started it. I dominated him, as he was trying to do to me, and I won. Simple as that. Keep in mind, this is the same guy who created the topic. He's obviously more interested in leading people off-topic than I am. Speaking of the topic, have you even come to a rational decision as to how? Or are you just still shooting the (*)(*)(*)(*) and talking about how much better your lives would be with out Muslims?
You are truly a legend in your own mind. I'll debate you on the subject matter, but first you have to express an opinion on the thesis I presented in this thread.
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Geez....not much meat to discuss in the last few emotional posts from the opposition. If you aren't going to address the ideology of islam and whether or not it should be destroyed, why don't you avoid the thread?

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Have you EVER seen a Muslim women? Obviously not.
A direct question, so I felt I should answer. Yes, I have seen a muslim womAn and women, on TV and in person...as if that matters at all?

Again, I would love it if it were true that most muslims were peaceful. Please explain to me how somehow who views muhammed as a "perfect man" could possibly be peaceful given that muhammed was a cold blooded murderer, conquerer, thief, rapist, and madman.
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Qur'an:8:67 It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.
Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

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You are truly a legend in your own mind. I'll debate you on the subject matter, but first you have to express an opinion on the thesis I presented in this thread.
Your subject matter is seriously flawed. It is prejudice towards Muslims. Not every Muslim is an Islamofacist, therefore this whole topic needs to be changed. Also, don't pretend that you haven't made claims of Islamofacism, I'm refering to the other guy.
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I never claimed that 100,000 civilians died by American hands. I merely state the fact that our invasion and occupation has resulted in 100,000 civilian deaths.

This is figure approximates the numbers from Iraq Body Count, the most well documented, and highly regarded, source of civilian Iraq deaths from violence during our war with Iraq.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
So your logic is that if we are not there, the number will go down... That makes perfect sense... not.
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Your subject matter is seriously flawed. It is prejudice towards Muslims. Not every Muslim is an Islamofacist, therefore this whole topic needs to be changed. Also, don't pretend that you haven't made claims of Islamofacism, I'm refering to the other guy.
The main point of this thread is that Islam in not a religion, but a sociopathic homicidal political cult. I have no qualms with people who practice their faith peacefully. I have said I have nothing against peaceful muslims. What have I said that you object to?
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Geez....not much meat to discuss in the last few emotional posts from the opposition. If you aren't going to address the ideology of islam and whether or not it should be destroyed, why don't you avoid the thread?
Tbh, I've never read the karon nor do I know too much about Muhammed, but I will not be getting that knowledge from you as it is clear to me that you are obviously prejudice against them, and your biases are sure to be extremely over exaggerated.


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A direct question, so I felt I should answer. Yes, I have seen a muslim womAn and women, on TV and in person...as if that matter at all?
And this is another reason I wont be taking your word for it. <<<Personal Attack Removed>>>
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I never claimed that 100,000 civilians died by American hands. I merely state the fact that our invasion and occupation has resulted in 100,000 civilian deaths.

This is figure approximates the numbers from Iraq Body Count, the most well documented, and highly regarded, source of civilian Iraq deaths from violence during our war with Iraq.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
So your logic is that if we are not there, the number will go down... That makes perfect sense... not.

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