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What the heck is a moderate muslim?
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You see the opposite in Islam where they Glorify the Murderers.
Not all leaders do this - the ones you always hear about are on the news more often because they are radical.
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What the heck is a moderate muslim? Might as well say moderate nazi. muslims, as stated by their perfect madman and their unholy books, are bent on world domination, treating women like animals, executing gay people, and raping anyone they see fit.

there is no such thing as a moderate muslim. If they were moderate, then they are by definition not muslim.
Was Muhammad Ali a rapist/murderer? Or was he not a Muslim? I think he'd be surprised to find he isn't Muslim. That is an example of a moderate.
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Was Muhammad Ali a rapist/murderer? Or was he not a Muslim? I think he'd be surprised to find he isn't Muslim. That is an example of a moderate.
If he believes muhammed was the perfect man/role model and believes in the words of the quran, then he is not moderate. I would point out that you can have an 'extremist' who doesn't do anything but believes it all. By definition, any self-proclaimed muslim is not a moderate. Its an oxymoron. It translates to "moderate radical."

If they call themself muslim and do not believe muhammed was the perfect man/role model or the quran, then they are really not muslims though I don't care what they call themsleves. Still, it would be nice if they came up with a new name for themselves, like reformed muslims, or former muslims, or muslims than abandon the evil of islam, or muslims formerly known as islamofascists, or muslims formerly known as islamotards, to help tell them apart.
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By definition, any self-proclaimed muslim is not a moderate. Its an oxymoron. It translates to "moderate radical."
By whose definition? Yours? You are hardly an authority on Islam, Muslims, or theology for that matter.
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By whose definition? Yours? You are hardly an authority on Islam, Muslims, or theology for that matter.
Based on the muslims own unholy books, evil words, and evil actions. I don't know how they could make it too much more clear. They are already plainly the scum of the planet, the worst scum in the history of mankind actually.
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Based on the muslims own unholy books, evil words, and evil actions. I don't know how they could make it too much more clear. They are already plainly the scum of the planet, the worst scum in the history of mankind actually.
that's still just your opinion
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Based on the muslims own unholy books, evil words, and evil actions. I don't know how they could make it too much more clear. They are already plainly the scum of the planet, the worst scum in the history of mankind actually.
you should really watch "Kingdom of Heaven" movie. that teaches you some information about islam.
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you should really watch "Kingdom of Heaven" movie. that teaches you some information about islam.
I respect you Perham because you are young and you seem open minded. I hope you have had the opportunity (or capability) to watch the videos with the Syrian American Hafa Sultan. Young people of Iran are the future of Iran. You and your peers are the future leaders who will lead your country out of the darkness which it finds itself currently under the veil of Islamic rule. Democracy and religious freedom will have to come from you and your peers, from the bottom up. We in America have great hope for the future liberalization of your country and hope for a peaceful transition to democracy.

Despite the current threats to the region, I don't think a war will be necessary. War would only be a tragedy for all involved. I wish you could see what life is like in the West. I know some Iranians here in America, and they would never go back to your country. But your country can become free like the West as the youth become more informed through information.
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